Pistoleer Archive

Thread: None of the fixesd are gonna matter unless DX2 gets fixed Jaegen88 please post here on our gun

atjtennis
Wed Sep 17, 2003 4:29 pm
#1

I am thrilled that we finally got the attention of the DEV's and things at least appear to be headed for a fix.


However, none of this is going to matter if the DX2 does not get fixed. Unless the pistoleer gun gets fixed we are still not gonna be going anywhere.


Currently every pistoleer uses an FWG5 cause they can get the most damage from them the HAM costs are fine. They are also the pistol on most people servers that weaponsmiths make the most cause theya re the most popular thus the easiest to get.


Dabblers like myself use the scatter pistol from the Bounty Hunter line.


Besides the occasional scout blaster I see no one and I mean no one on Starsider using a SR combat pistol, strker pistol, power 5 pistol etc.


Since on Starsider T21 still cannot be made I may be wrong in this statement but it seems except for carbineer and their elite carbine and the pistoleer and the DX2 all other elite or hybrid classes weapons that they get when they get the novice profession of their elite or hybrid class work well now.


If the DX2 does not get fixed ie the light armor rating needs to start working and the ideal range needs to be further away than point blank then the pistoleer in my opinion will remain a broken class.





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deadnewbie
Wed Sep 17, 2003 4:39 pm
#2

A lot of guns are broken at the moment. There's really nothing wrong with relying on the FWG5. It's an excellent cheap gun.



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Todds523
Wed Sep 17, 2003 5:06 pm
#3

i actually rely on my scout blaster. i never really liked the fwg5



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deadnewbie
Thu Sep 18, 2003 4:17 am
#4




i actually rely on my scout blaster. i never really liked the fwg5



I'm a master pistoleer. I can't hit jack at max range with a scout.




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DarthSadeth
Thu Sep 18, 2003 5:07 am
#5

I replacted the test that I read about another player preforming. The post is on this board somewhere. Something to he tune of "traking down the DX2 bug". After trying for myself, I think the DX2 is working as intended, just not like alot of leople thought it would work. If you shot something with no armor at all, watch the number diferance between the above-head dmg and the combat scrool dmg. You will see a 25% increase on the above-head dmg vs. combat scroll. Against AR1 with no acid resist, the above-head and combat scroll match. Against A2 or higher or acid resist, you will see proper addjustments between comat scroll and above-head, the combat scroll would be higher here.



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WinterRoseASFR
Thu Sep 18, 2003 8:46 am
#6

Actually I'm pretty honked off that we don't have more and better weapon certs than we do. There's LOTS of established guns in the SW mythos that they're not taking advantage of. Lots of neat pistol ideas that we could use that we're being denied. I've got a thread about it where I've gone through my books and made several suggestions concerning what we could use and how they could be applied. A single weapon for an elite weapon using class? That's insulting and small. Have a look at this thread to see all the stuff I've suggested as to the weapons that are supposed to be in development.

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=pistoleer&message.id=13952

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Aerius
Thu Sep 18, 2003 11:16 am
#7

I agree with DarthSadeth, the armor piercing -IS- working. Personally I dont know a single high level pistoleer without a dx2, if you think it sucks and never want to touch one I suppose that is your decision. I assure you there are lots of players using a dx2 along with their fwg/scout/whatever. When fighting armored mobs the difference is night and day, you are free to use your fwg as long as you want though.


If you are missing a lot I suggest that you kneel for more accuracy. If you can't kneel because a mob is ontop of you, then you are getting a ranged bonus anyway.







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Zzam
Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:08 pm
#8

the dx2 is fine


just because its higher up doesn't mean its better




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Aidendorf
Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:38 pm
#9

i see your point relating to the dx2,but you realize that they would have to retune nearly every weapon in the pistol line to achieve what you want.


I do not agree that 1 pistol or carbine or rifle should be the Best all the time.


For pistoleers the fwg 5 is the standard pistol because it is the best all around pistol in most cases. That means the p5,and sr combat should be fixed,not the dx2. personally i think the sr combat should just be an improved scout blaster with similar stats and higher ham costs,with ar1.


The striker pistol,is actually pretty decent, for one reason,it gives you an additional damage type. same with the tangle pistol. If you look at it,pistol users have more damage types then any other class in the game.


The only real issue i have is that the 2 best pistols in the game are based on the commando and BH profression. however its not all that hard to pick up novice commando to use a launcher pistol,and the 20% bonus on the scatter isnt worth all the points invested,unless your going with the BH profression anyway.


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