Pistoleer Archive

Rereading the devs response, and reading how holo did not adress BS3 I surmized a few things...

1.) As you all have said before BS3 is worse then BS2 because of lower DPS, which is because it has a higher delay.

2.) Because the majority of speed points are in the master box, pistoleers can not hit the speed cap with BS3 until the master box (Sometimes not even then.)

3.) Since it can not hit the speed cap, and is only .5 greater then two...It has an effective lower DPS then BS2...

Now holo said the dev will be upping and redispersing pistoleer pistol speed (grats you guys )....Which means pistoleers will hit the speed cap, even with a slow pistol....(As long as they get to 85 speed)...

Which means at a 2.5 damage mod BS3 will sustain a higher DPS then BS2 with its 2.0 dmg mod...because they will both fire at 1 a second...

Now the question......

Is this an acceptable fix? I only ask because I think the devs are using it as a fix, and none of the pistoleers seemed to have caught it or adressed it (If you have I apologize)

Did they say they're adding more speed to the original 74, besides just redistributing it?

I belive so Vgiest. and its +79 speed at master...

Taewyn,

I believe you are mistaken. At present, the pistol speed would be +74. You can only get +79 if you are also a Master Marksman.

Nov Marksman +5
Pistol I +5
Pistol II +5
Pistol III +5
Pistol IV +5
Nov Pistoleer +5
Stances I +6
Stances II +6
Stances III +6
Stances IV +6
Master Pistoleer +20

I'm skeptical that this would be a fix. I don't think a +74 could fire BS3 at a .5 speed with any legal pistol. 1 second minimum base pistol speed * 2.4 special delay * .26 pistol speed modifier = .624 seconds / shot. Is a 1.0 second pistol achievable? Because BS2 would be at that cap already, that is about identical DPS for both (2.5 damage mod/.624 = 4.0 = 2.0 damage mod/.5). How would BS3 benefit anyone, unless people are able to exceed +74 much faster than master.

Its silly to think I would have to get Master Marksman to get the best pistol speed. WHY should I have to spend points on rifle and carbine trees that have NOTHING to do with pistol skill to get +5 to my pistol speed???

If your a software developer would you expect that spending part of your time as a secretary would increase your skills as a software developer??

It makes no sense.

-Mourf

Mourfeous I guess they did it to get something out of your skill point in Master Marksman. Probably in hindsight a better bonus would have been "General Ranged Speed +5" or something like that.

Well, with the current system, +5 speed can be pretty good, it can increase your damage by vast amounts IF your speed is high enough..look at a graph of speed to get a picture of it.

Anyway, I think they said in the newest post that they will be changing the way speed works. IMO we'll have to test it out in full, and report our findings, and figure out if we like it.

At first glance, yeah, I think we may be in good shape, but it will either be toned down, or other professions will get a boost, too soon to tell.

Body shot3..I dont like the fix personally, it's weak. But we will do what we can in asking for 3.0, or 2.75, whatever we can get. I doubt AOE is an options, carbines are area weapons the devs said, pistols are short range/fast/low action/low AR/good defense vs melee.

I think we will get nailed at some point on range, but will still be OK in the other areas...maybe even get an edge with speed.

They need to make bodyshot 3 a cone like they are doing to leg shot 3, we need more variation in moves, not just random ham damage for everything.