Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Listen to you guys, whats it going to take...
Ok all, first and foremost here "WAS" my story... at the release of this game I LOVED it, and worked super hard lotta time going for master marksman and brawler spec for commando. Back then it was pretty tough cause you dont have the master weaponsmiths making the fine weapons they do now. So I worked hard for it...to be SEVERELY freaking dissapointed...in the meentime I take up pistoleer as I heard the launcher pistol when fixed would be able to use pistol xp. Started up the gunfighter tree, got very attached to a much awaited for saving special such as pistol melee defense!! Not but a few weeks later they gotta lay there hands all over it and NERF THE BALLS OFF OF IT!!!! Making action costs astronomical, i was MAD i wanted to quit but like an idiot I stayed in there and made the best of it by constantly limiting myself to scout blaster for HAM costs. I lost so many friends, but I hung in there after seeing what suppression fire could do (got attached). NOW I DO NOT PVP ALOT BECAUSE I REFUSE TO EVEN TAKE PART IN SOMETHING SO IMBALANCED AS SUCH. Just wanna make that clear off the bat. I chose a wookie not knowing they can't wear clothes nor armor, so I went rebel and found it appalling how powerfull Imperial had at there disposal ATST's that could mind shot you in 1 hit maybe 2 incap.
So Thursday me and my buddy log on and went to hunt.... What did we go to hunt not torturs, not nightsisters.....we went for Mt Squill. We used to be able to assist each other with suppression fire which I thought was doing fine, still made it hard but gave you a chance. If things got too bad i could knock it down.
We also had 3 senior spec force NPC grouped with us cause we recently got them and thought they were cool. OUTCOME: Both of us incapped and 2 spec force dead, other incapped. Now not but a day ago we could clean house on these things and 1 was giving us HELL! Now i ask you HOW can you take it on the chin like that and consider going a different path. Impossible for me im sorry, we both quit that night.
When I hear every one sqauking about what to do now and considering option of still playing you all remind me of chics in a nest and the mamma bird being SOE taking a crap in your outstreched mouths and necks. They just can't leave things alone they have to nerf and unerf it's too much to take, so i just ask you how can you do it..............?
I think you're just trying to use the same strategy as before and finding it doesn't work. If you want to take on high HAM/armor/resist creatures now without having the proper brute force to do the job (i.e. if you don't have a couple people with the weaponry to do real damage to the creatures) you need to cut down your numbers and work with Warning Shot. Bleed it, shoot it once or twice, let it run out to 50m, shoot it a couple times, make it run again... I was able to kill Mountain Squills like this before and after the patch, even though it was much, much harder than knockdown.
Humanoid types are much harder now because they don't run away, and usually shoot anyway (shooting creatures you can at least let run past 64m and heal yourself while they bleed), but very few have anything close to the 40%+ resist/armor 1-2 you'll find on nasty creatures, so you can pull out your highest damage gun without regard to AR or damage type and blast away.
Now I'm not saying it's -good- that I can take down something like a mountain squill or dragonet solo, but not if I have a pet or faction guy or friend helping me (I can do it with the friend(s) but he needs to know when to stop shooting or I die, I've tried this with mottled/grand wrix herds), but that's the way it works now. I -guess- that makes it a new strategy.
Anyway, I feel it's a little broken but since these creatures are red the way it'd likely get fixed is to limit our ability to kill them at allnow, and no one wants that.
-Corri Agir; Sunrunner
Warning shot works decent with mountain squills.
Remember, they havereally goodresistances, so you'll really want to bleed them, and use a heat weapon.
However, in general, I know find that stuff that cons dark blue, especially if an npc with a gun, is extremely harrowing for me to fight. I'll die unless I heal often and really really pay attention to what I'm doing.
deadnewbie-LOL
you make me laugh. Whats your player name and server? I would really like to see you solo a Squil using your pistol skills. I mean you talk the talk but can you walk the walk?
Darklightr
p.s. PISTOL SKILLS
Soloing Mt. Squills isn't hard,..takes a little strategy,..some stim-b's...and a FWG.
First,..find the closest one. Second x2 bleed,....start to back off,...hope your suppression fire 1 works,..then lead it around a bit,..firing bs2,..overchargeshot,..and another suppression fire.
5 times out of 10 I get incapped,...but the brute succumbs to my bleed shots before it DB's me (and I am sure MT. Squills do DB). The times I get incapped are the times my suppression fire doesn't work and I have to spam the hell outta my stim pack hot key to heal cause it is right on top of me. Also,..having excellent armor helps. I bought a pair of composite gloves with 52% resistance to kinetic, and a bunch of others,..with an additional 23% protect against lightening from Michie Elo near anchorhead who runs the Armor-n-Stuff shop. Easy on the ham bars,..even more so after a fine slice.
Come to think of it,...the times I got incapped was prolly due to my constant use of specials
Anyway,..if your skeptical,..I play on Bria Server,...names Gost Dajtink,..be more than happy to demonstrate.
(getting 3688 pistol xp/400 something combat xp from these things is well worth the demo)
Im sorry, but oh boo hoo you cant kill Mt. Squills anymore! Well take a look at them. They are an agressive mob with nice resist and 10k ham. They are not susposed to be easy, and in my opinion if you could take them out with something as simple as spaming supression fire, then something needed to be changed. I think it took to long if anything. Im a pistoleer 0.3.4.2 and im still happy with what I can kill. Stormtroopers are much harder now because I cant just body2, body2, pistol whip, repeat, boo freakeaty hoo. If anything, SOME (note the emphesis on some) nerfs are making this game more reasonalbe in terms of what you can actually kill, or should be able to kill for that matter. Do your self a favor and take some real life lessons and incorporate them. "Deal and work with what ya got to use"
Inotep