Pistoleer Archive

If you have ever been shot, you're probably not overly concerned with whether it was a pistol or a rifle that shot you. Both can kill equally, the main difference being the effective range for each weapon.

That being said... Rifleman seem to have gotten a jump on us Pistoleers with their T-21. Sure it went through a series of nerfs and un-nerfs but ultimately they got a weapon worth of an elite level profession.

I'm not entirely sure why the DX2 is still an acid blasting DL44 with light armor piercing and the worst range penalities of the entire pistol line. I'm also not sure why this really hasn't been recognized by the developers as a seriously crippling issue for many pistoleers and the sheer unfairness when one looks at the T21 or even Elite Carbines available to our sister professions.

I think this problem does need to be addressed asap. You would think that the hard work (for many) to get to the pistoleer level would be paid off with a unique, useful, and comparatively powerful weapon similar to other weapon professions (Carbineer, Rifleman..). I'm very hopeful that this is at least recognized by the developers at some point in the near future and hope that they can at least offer some comment on the DX2 issue or better yet a ray of hope for the future.

I purchased 1 DX2 which now hangs on my wall above my couch... I can't find much of a better use for it atm.

What i would like to see is a unique pistol for Pistoleers with a max damage close to 275, min. damage 80+, light armor piercing, max speed relative to an FWG, and at least usable w/o range penalties to 16m ... the armor piercing is nice as well. I think a weapon such is this isn't much to ask for and most certainly not unbalancing when compared to other weapons.

I love my DX2. Sliced to 1.7 Speed, 83-139 Damage, get it to 111-160 with the min/max powerup I use.

It's a useful weapon if you take into account Armour Piercing.

I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this one...I love my DX2. And from what I can tell, the AP does work. Not to mention the acid damage, which really makes a difference.

How ever I would like to point out that your problem with the pistol could be that the resources on your server are bad. I know for eclipse right now our fwg5s are total crap compared to what I'm hearing others coming out with. Best we got is a 40-170, 2.0 speed. And I'm hearing reports of them going over 300 on other servers. Our DX2s arent too hot right now either, but they are pretty nice, 81-141, 2.4 speed. Which can be pretty nice after a good slice.

But I will agree that our guns are a little bit under the weather. Especially if you consider the reports of riflemen of all people getting their T21 to fire at 1 sec per shot?

Maybe I should post this somewhere else. That we should have different speed caps for different weapons. Rifles cap at 3sec, carbine 2, and pistols 1. Otherwise the DPS of the pistoleer that was our only useful asset is gone. Why spam specials with a gun that kills your action pool, when you can just get a T21 and leave it on autofire and do more damage?

The DX2 armor piercing is bugged. It is also very inaccurate outside of short range. All in all, you're better off using something else now for general use, because the DX2 is a situational weapon only.

I agree with the original poster. We need the DX2 to be clearly superior to the pistols we get at Marksman.

Maybe I'm being negative but I get the impression that: a) developers think Pistoleer overpowered and overpopulated; b) developers don't like that; and c) there will not be many changes/adds to skills and pistols to encourage more pistoleers for some time.

Hope I'm wrong.

Armor piercing is working as intended.. I guess they should add a bonus message to the combat window for all the ppl who haven't learn about percents, multiplication and division.. They need to change the metal req for dx2 to any metal and increase the amounts so you can have a decent pistol.

The T-21 is slightly overpowered. Not damage wise, but the armor piercing bonus of 3.. That means they get a 3x multiplier to unarmored targets... Damage and speed are fine, but ap3 must go down a notch. Another problem are the guys with 700+dmg T-21's running around...

The elite carbine is worse off than the dx2.. the best i've seen was 172max dmg and 2.6 speed. Truely deserving of the name elite Carbineers do however have the laser carbine, which is in second box of the marksman tree.. Now this is way too powerfull. Best i've seen is 275max dmg and 4.5 speed, unsliced and it has AP2... Bad part about all of the carbines are the health costs. I've yet to see one under 30 health special move cost (the 275 carbine had a health cost of 58, with underhand it was doing 387dmg to me). which usually does at least 100-200dmg for every special you do; most of it's health. I went up to bounty carbine 4 with a bunch of snubnose carbines with power ups..

I think some of you people need to go try rifleman a bit and then rethink your comments here. You don't have a clue what you are talking about. I don't mean any offense by this statement, but it's true. The T21 is a pain in the butt. Perhaps once a master rifleman it would have some use, but it's so slow, and with huge mind costs of 81+ you can incap yourself before killing someone.Then slap in the 2.5x melee damage modifier...lol The grass is not always greener on the other side.

I'm both a pistoleer and a rifleman, I speak from experience when I say the life of a pistoleer is much easier than that of a rifleman. The T21 isn't overpowered, it's a piece of crap.(at least at my early level it isnext to useless)Please go try it out...