Pistoleer Archive

I'm going to look at this situation like I looked at my Dancer. I wanted to be the uber entertainer and have access to all the dances/songs/instruments so I became a Master Dancer/Musician/Entertainer. Goal accomplished.

So I wonder, if the goal is to be the best with pistols period, why not just use this template:

Master Pistoler + BH Pistol 4 = 13 Points Left over.

You would have access to all pistol specials, all pistol types and have ungodly speed/accuracy.

Heck, you could even use those remaining points to get LLC3 which would give you a nice special and accuracy/speed.

Personally I think this combo would really make the Pistoleer the true master of all things pistol and give them some impressive LLC firepower.

You have the points, why not use them? Heck in the process you get Master Marksman and Scout.

Thoughts?

Sounds powerful, but how are you supposed to heal yourself?

My goal... Master Pistol, Master Smuggler, and achieve the Meditative branch of Teras Kasi. Self-healing, Pistol-Whipping Gunslinger. Can't wait to get it accomplished!

You can do that, but it's overkill. You don't really need master pistoleer. You get +80 speed from master marksman and BH pistol 4, +5 from novice pistoleer, and +6 from Int. Special abilities (you get PW as a bonus). This puts you at +91 speed, which is quite sufficient if you don't use pistols that are slower than 2.5s or so. If you're dead-set on getting more speed, you literally cannot benefit from more than Specials3. Stances/Grips 3 give you stopping shot, which is the best random HAM attack the pistoleer gets (and which will be at 1s delay with all the speed the hybrid has). Take Pistol Marksmanship to 4 and basically the ONLY thing you're missing compared to a master pistoleer/BHP4 is a little bit of accuracy (and you won't have all the dodge mods...what a loss).

actually, loss of the Dodge mods for me would be considerable, i rarely use melee defense 1 anyway, so now, i run around my target and hope that their accuracy while moving is less than mine (which it usualy is) and pray that Fan Shot hits the same pool.

oh and to the original poster, yes that is quite a tempting plan

ok heres what i am going for i know i will have points left over, dont know where i am going to spend those points at yet.

pistoleer 0441

bh0400

master scout/master marskman (stupid bh prereq.)

i currently have higher in pistoleer but i am going to sell that once i get the prereqs for bounty. what do ya guys think about that and what should i do with the left overs?

sorry i think the bh pistol line is #3 is so it will look like 0040

The question is really this: Why should someone with the title of "Master Pistoleer" be required to take another profession's pistol line to actually be a Master Pistoleer. A Master Pistoleer without the BH Pistol line really isn't a master at the pistol, is he?

Template for now:

Master Mark

Master Scout

PIstoleer - 0042

BH - 0044

Medic - 2000

Stock up on stim b's, woundpaks for all types of wounds - keep em in your house

then youve still got 13 points left to migrate and adapt when that nerf bat comes a swingin.

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Taallyn wrote:
The question is really this: Why should someone with the title of "Master Pistoleer" be required to take another profession's pistol line to actually be a Master Pistoleer. A Master Pistoleer without the BH Pistol line really isn't a master at the pistol, is he?

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i know what you mean taalyn i will not work towards master till they fix what a master pistoleer is. my goal before i logged in the first time was to become a master pistoleer, my charecters name is caleel guns, and now i ams going to settle for 0442 pistoleer and pick up the bh pistol line so i can be a b-dazz pistol user

>The question is really this: Why should someone with the title of "Master Pistoleer" be
>required to take another profession's pistol line to actually be a Master Pistoleer. A >Master Pistoleer without the BH Pistol line really isn't a master at the pistol, is he?


The same argument can be made for someone who is a Master Dancer, or Master Musician, why should Master Entertainers get instruments and songs/dancers that the master's get.

The only viable answer I could come up with for that situation, and the pistol situation is that weapons/specials and instruments/songs granted in say the BH tree and Master Entertainer tree are specialized class trained items. No one could deny that a Master Pistoleer is good with the Pistol, but he is good because he has been trained on each type of pistol. If the scatter pistol for instance requires special bounty hunter training than the pistoleer could still use it, but he/she would be less effective, much like all weapons in the game today.

Much like comparing a Yo Yo Ma (Cello) to Andres Segovia (Classical Guitar), both use stringed instruments (a la pistol/instrument for our case here) and both are Masters, but put Segovia in front of a cello and he would lack the training.

The point of this original post was simply to point out that those BH pistol skills are there for the taking if you want to commit the points/time.

I was in the same situation with my dancer and ended up taking all three lines (dance/music/entertain) to the master level. I had a blast and had access to everything related to my field.

The problem with taking master pistoleer + bh pistol 4 is that right now, most of those pistoleer points are wasted.

Assuming you even believe that dodge/defense mods work and are worth getting you can do something like 2/2/4/2 in pistoleer, 0040 in bh and toss the rest into medic, ranger, ch whatever - if you agree with most that the dodge/defense mods are worthless atm then just take pistoleer 0402 and bh 0040 = gobs of speed and accuracy + all the bh pistols specials and the one good one left to pistoleers.