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Thread: Fan shot VS Stopping shot...

Stunzzuf
Fri Oct 03, 2003 9:36 pm
#1

dont know if this has been passed around on this forum, i am really close to getting fan shot but my question is...is it worth the 450000xp? is it that much better? any opinion would help a great deal, im thinking about further pursuit of the smuggler tree and 450k of pistol xp will go a long way there if fan shot is a bust





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Dinian
Fri Oct 03, 2003 10:56 pm
#2

yes. Fanshot is worth it.



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Stunzzuf
Sat Oct 04, 2003 1:04 am
#3

thanks and nice sig, just how much xp do you need to be a master womanizer ? hehe



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Tidise
Sat Oct 04, 2003 4:41 am
#4

fan shot is no where near as good as stopping shot =|



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Liftie
Sat Oct 04, 2003 6:01 am
#5

Fan shot is better than stopping shot until you get to Master Pistoleer because the speed modifier on stopping shot makes each shot so much slower. Yes, stopping shot is higher damage, but damage over time is what counts. If you have both shots, test killing the same high HAM beast 5 times with each kind of shot and you'll find that you get more xp with fan shot until you cap out on your pistol speed using fan shot (I've tested on Baz Nitches numerous times).


See pistoleer Faq Sheet above for speed modifiers...




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Zerona
Sat Oct 04, 2003 6:08 am
#6

Please note that it is very hard tomake Stopping Shot cause more DPSwith just Master Pistoleer. You're likely to need Master Marksman or be a Bounty Hunter to do it.



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Ypiana
Sat Oct 04, 2003 6:16 am
#7

Fanshot bites a 500+ chunk outof all three bars. You'll notice in intense PvP that the action bar will tank out. Often one or two fan shots on someone will wipe out their action bar and they go flip-flop.


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DaDoctorIsIn
Sat Oct 04, 2003 9:07 am
#8

Without any other classes to back it up. Fan shot is by far the best.


Now is any of our other specials actually worked that'd be great.


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Raven_Master
Sat Oct 04, 2003 1:18 pm
#9

Wait a second here, fanshot takes all 3 bars equally? That rocks!



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Jaegen88
Sat Oct 04, 2003 1:29 pm
#10

No, it does not take all three bars equally, that's a carbine special attack, and the carbine one is more like 1-3 bars at a time, it's not always all three (not sure how that special works).


Anyway, Fan Shot is "random HAM", which we think is 1/2 of the time hitting health, 1/3 of the time hitting action, and 1/6 of the time hitting mind. Those exact numbers might be incorrect, but it's close to it.


Stopping shots damage modifier should also be 5.0, not the 4.7 in the FAQ. It's true, in general, use fan shot over stopping shot unless you're high speed and/or very high weapon speed, do the calculation to see where you are in terms of speed if you think you might be close.




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DisplacedSurfeR
Sat Oct 04, 2003 3:56 pm
#11

You need a 1.4 speed gun to hit stopping shot at cap (with master speed alone) At least thats what ive been led to belive..





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RhysMarantz
Sat Oct 04, 2003 4:50 pm
#12

It has been a while since I have read anything on pistol special modifiers. When I was current on it, a 1.0 second pistol would shoot stopping shot every 1.04 seconds.


(100 - speed mods) Xweapon speed X special delay


0.26 X 1.0 X 4





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Zerona
Sun Oct 05, 2003 7:24 am
#13

Rhys is right. You can't cap SS with Pistoleer alone, you need Master Marksman or BH. However, for very fast weapons (1.0 or 1.1, I don't think 1.2 will do it), your FanShot will have been capped long enough that SS is finally better than it is.


Moral of the story: SS is fine and good for one shotting low HAM creatures, but you need to be more than a Pistoleer to take down larger HAM creatures using Stopping Shot (and PvP players are essentially 4000 HAM anyway). Far too often, people get blinded by the damage and not taking the longview. Which is the same reason they think the FWG is the best gun in the game.




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