Pistoleer Archive

Assuming the formula for pistol speed, with my pistol speed at say 98 I will fire at 1 second with any special as long as my pistol has a delay of less than 12.5?

Here's my calculation....

SpecialDelayMod = 4 // the delay mod for stopping shot since this is the slowest

x = WeaponSpeed // this is the number I want to find

PistolSpeed = 98 // my projected pistol speed skill

Using the formula (WeaponSpeed * SpecialDelayMod) - (WeaponSpeed * SpecialDelayMod) * (PistolSpeed/100) = 1 // I added the '= 1' at the end since this is my desired fire rate.

I get...

4x - 4x(98/100) = 1

4x - 3.92x = 1

0.08x = 1

x = 12.5

This look right?

The way i understood it was that aslomg as the pistoleer speed was 100, the delay mod on any special would be 1 sec. The thing i cant figure out is where does the 100 come from. I think if i remember correctly Master Pistoleer gives 74? im not in game so i cant check. This is w/o master marksman. With Master marksman it bring you up to a whopping 81. Is this right? How do you get 100?

Bad math Master Marksman gives 79

Sounds right narael. you could do stopping shot with something as slow as a T21 or flamethrower or dumptruck or whatever and still hit the speed cap.

---

sce33 wrote:
The way i understood it was that aslomg as the pistoleer speed was 100, the delay mod on any special would be 1 sec. The thing i cant figure out is where does the 100 come from. I think if i remember correctly Master Pistoleer gives 74? im not in game so i cant check. This is w/o master marksman. With Master marksman it bring you up to a whopping 81. Is this right? How do you get 100?

---

With master pistoleer and bounty hunter pistol 4 you can get up to 129 pistol speed.. knock off master pistol and the top 2 tiers of the pistoleer pistol speed tree and you get 97. I miscalculated when I came up with 98, but the results are virtually the same.

______________________________________________________________________

Narael wrote:

With master pistoleer and bounty hunter pistol 4 you can get up to 129 pistol speed

_____________________________________________________________________

I was under the impression that anything over 100 is overkill

Tik'ee

over 100 is overkill, just pointing out that it is possible to break 100

Yeah but does any of this really matter when the next patch comes ALL special will have a 30 sec delay timer Yeah for PvP might as well set a chair and watch the fights.

You are wrong, Volsheer. Only knockdown will have 30 seconds, but thats already implemented as a hotfix, so = no change.

/Riv

---

Gathram wrote:

You are wrong, Volsheer. Only knockdown will have 30 seconds, but thats already implemented as a hotfix, so = no change.

/Riv

---

Then can you explain what this means as I pulled it from the In Test notes which will be a part of next big publish?

COMBAT

Fix combat spam so that armor that is attacked by a higher-rated weapon will correctly report back the damage it prevented.

Changed all delay moves to be on a 30 second timer

Brought pistolmeleedefense2 (pistolwhip 2) cost in line with pistolwhip 1

Removed knockdown from disarming shot

Decreased cost of all knockdown moves

Increased damage of all knockdown moves

Decreased pistolwhip 1/2 damage

I hope they can make up their minds on the effectiveness of pistolwhip as a knockdown also

They are referring to all delay type moves such as Knockdown, Posture Changes, and others. They are not referring to the delay of specials as that has its own calculation, which the original poster has correct.

Thank you for the clarification. I stand corrected I was hoping as read it wrong and thank god I did.