Pistoleer Archive

::head scratch::

One-shot kill from a guy who wasted 150+ skill points compared to my 70 something is bad?

The developers are stupid idiots.

Oh yeah! Good point. As a master Squad Leader, who has wasted quite a few points on that class also, I should be able to rip out your eyeballs and skull **** you! New spec abil I'll have to remember to ask Holo for. Or are you saying only certain hybrid classes should get neat abilities?

That holo, didn't even give us the common courtesy of a reach-around.

The point-cost for the pre-reqs aren't a valid argument for the 'power' of an elite class. This is because you still receive benefits from the pre-reqs. It would be reasonable to argue that the pre-reqs are poorly chosen, because they don't help the class, but it's not reasonable to state those points are -wasted-. Put in another way, what should be the difference between a master BH (and thus master marksman/master scout) and a master pistol/rifle/carbine + master marksman + master scout?

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vGeist wrote:
The developers are stupid idiots.

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The same could be said for a few players.

BTW, as a Master Squad Leader, you can grab 3 buddies, and do all the skull-**edit**ing you want. You're a combat organizer, not an actual combatant. Go pick a fight with Grand Moff Tarkin and see who wins...have him on the other side of a battlefield, leading the Imperial Navy, and expect a different outcome.

Stop being inane. A Bounty Hunter or a Commando has every right to come up and blow you sky-high...if you're jealous of the power, pick up the profession yourself. As a Pistoleer, I use the skill points I DIDN'T waste to grab other professions that I find worthwhile, and create a character that fits my play style.

Ah yes, because a BH or Commando has to master marksman, and a BH has to master scout i should be **edit**ing useless in PvP...well i guess its true, after all it is super hard to use camps and impossible get trap exp, i mean jeez who could ever master scout in less then a day? and just because the BH used 95% of his points to become a master BH i should be whacked a few times with the nerf bat and have 99% of the things in the pistoleer tree useless

DTox, you're so funny. As a tailor I would be a good organizer and be as effective, combat wise, as a Squad Leader. Watch out or I'll RALLY! WEEEHHHHAAAWWWW.

You want commando and BH to be uber because they are hybrids? Throw in SL, but...hey, WE CAN RALLY! And, I can make you crawl like greased lightning.

But I'm getting off topic here. My rant about SL is for my other useless class. For pistoleer I am totally with you Jaegan. We got completely worked over and...as I said...Holo didn't even give us the common courtesy of a reach-around.

this morning i made a toon on another server, making him a BH now. i'm at marksman level 3 in all the lines, and most of the scout is on 2 (scouting xp seems to be tougher to get after the patch) once he's novice BH in a few days i'm gonna do the same thing on another server.

Devs..."we have noticed an unussual amouth of novice BH's what's up?"

next day....BH is worthless

where's my edit button?...lol

Calling someone an idiot can seem very unsophisticated but sometimes it's the most accurate thing you can say.

I think the concerns raised are valid. The overwhelming majority of the pistoleer skills are detrimental in combat. However, worse than this, is the lack of any communication about these issues. Just a one liner, such as 'Hey, these are valid concerns and we are investigating them' would suffice for a while, but we haven't even seen that, have we? There is a reason why correspondents have quit, and here we have it folks.

Instead of a rant, we need a careful analysis of each Pistoleer skill. Start with the marksmen ones, then work up. At the higher levels, its easier to show that the cost of the pistoleer specials outweigh the benifits, especially in reference to the marksmen lines.

Do we have such thread on this? I know we have several filled with suggestions, but we should first present an analysis of the current state, show why our skills are not being used, then propose fixes for them.

Given the lack of response... maybe I'll go combat medic for a while =).

I can't wait to see Jaegen's rant!!! And we should definitely do what one of the other posters said ... Jaegen can write a post and let us all know so we can respond and keep it bumped. And we can send the Devs PMs asking them to read it.

In my mind here are the biggest issues facing pistoleers:

1) Our specials totally suck/are broken

2) Because the way the game handles speed is screwed up, we have far less DPS than any other elite ranged combat class.

3) Our defense modifiers are STILL completely broken

4) Our only armor piercing pistol totally sucks, and the armor piercing doesn't even work. Make the FWG5 and Scout be AR1 as well.

5) Our weapons are woefully inadequate when compared to the high end weapons in the game right now. On my server there are carbines with over 500 max damage, plus the crazy LLCs and heavy weapons. If they are going to make all weapons more powerful, they need to do the same for ours ... and make SPEED work, goddamn it.

And we can make our extra "pet peeve" issue be the stupid titles we now have. Trick Shot? Dead-Eye? Give me a fricking break.