Pistoleer Archive

Hello all, first time I post here.

I already read most of the subjects and didn't found any comment on this so I waill ask the question : why can't a pistoleer (master or not) can't use ALL pistols in the game ?

When I played beta, I thought it was just for testing purpose, certs weren't working btw...but now, I see the Pistoleer branch and still can't understand why someone who only uses pistols as his life saving friend can't use some pistols (Scatter for example).

I am not whinning about the efficiency of BH vs Pistoleers with a pistol, it is just...well, kinda strange to say the least...but why can't a Pistoleer know how to use a pistol he surely already seen once ? Are his fingers not made for ?

Scatters aren't a "special" weapon, they are just some kind of Acid Gun (just like DX2) so can someone explain me why a Master Pistoleer have no idea of the way to use it ?


PS : oh and why are the scatters THAT powerfull when DX2 are THAT pityfull ?


regards

ya have a point there a pistoleer shud be able to use any pistol, hence the name "pistoleer" and yea, why is DX2 so useless if its an Elite Profession gun?

Definition: \Pis`to*leer"\, n. [Cf. F. pistolier.]
One who uses a pistol. [R.] --Carlyle.

Novice Pistoleer - The novice pistoleer gains significant improvements in short-range firearms along with a series of special abilities for nearly every situation.

Master Pistoleer - The master pistoleer has gained significant improvements in short-range firearms along with a series of special abilities for nearly every situation.

No where does it say that pistoleers use pistols all their life or that they are the masters of all pistols.

I'm starting to consider things like the Scatter pistol and Launcher Pistol to be similar to the class specific weapons in EQ. So, long as each profession has equivalent weapons, what difference does it really make if a given profession can't use a specific weapon? There will be more weapons added as time goes on. Class specific weapons are really just another way for developers to add a unique flavor to different professions/classes.

The scatter pistol is an illegal pistol whereas the rest are not.

Bounty Hunters already exist somewhat "outside" the law and thus have no qualms with using illegal weaponry.

i have a dx2 and i love it

the ham costs are lower than my fwg5

damage is 113-173 (after slicing)

speed is 2.4

and it does acid damage

I treat my DX2 Nice, it treats me nice... But Armor Leveldoesn't work in this game yet so its Armor Peircing doesn't come into play at all...

It would be neat if Law Enforcement NPCs went after people for using Illegal weaponry.... It would add some flavor to Bounty Hunters lives, and balance out their ability to target every HAM bar with a special attack.

Of course that would be unrealistic, Law Enforcers enforcing the law...

But thats not my call heh..

But dont worry guys, new pistols will appear, you can be that... This game aint done yet!

I guess it's okay if the scatter pistol is an illegal weapon. But I would feel a heck of a lot better if BHs could get in trouble for using it. Say, use it around a CorSec and there could be problems. BHs would complain all day long even though this wouldn't really be much of an inconvenience. As for the launcer pistol.. I don't care, that's another weapon entirely.

And I wouldn't mind the DX2 being a bad weapon if the AP worked properly. Because then it wouldn't be so bad. Thankfully, new weapon certs will help.

For the person who gave me 1 star: I'll take that as you know that I'm right, are pissed that I am, and have no valid argument to the contrary.

A master pistoleer CAN use a scatter pistol. Just grab novice BH, and there ya go.

What, you don't want to bother? Want a little whine with that cheese?

Heh, but that is an extra 40 points (at least, 54 if you don't have Ranged Wep Support as a pistoleer.)

40 points just for the pistol isn't worth it. I think the issue here is less that we can't use scatter, and more that the DX2 sucks in comparison to scatter.

Actually, the issue might be bitching that BH are 'overpowered' but I don't really care either way. My DX2 is 80-150, 2.1 speed (after slice, got a crappy slice, 19% speed, **edit**!) and I am happy with my performance with it.

Hmmm no, the reason isn't to say BH are overpowered. Everybody know they are but I don't care, as a CH / Pistoleer, I am very fine too.

My point was to know why we can't handle a pistol. Someone stated that was because the Scatter was a forbidden gun...ok, so :

1) does that make a difference ? No, no way, legal or not, a Pistoleer must know how to use it, period.

2) you mean a pistoleer really care about rules like that ? Why can I be a Rebel OR an Imp then ?


For sure scatter is waaaaayyyyy better than DX2 (which doesn't make sense) but that was ONLY an example (the only example I know :b). BH should be able to use DX2 too since BH are ppl that can learn anything that will help them to track and trap their victims.

Dealing with EQ and its weapon here is a really bad move, that was precisely what bothered MANY ppl in EQ. EQ was retarded concempt if you ask me (I have a lvl 65 Necro and play since beta), same rules for both PvP, Non-PvP, Deity and teams servers is purely stupid because those games are REALLY different.

SWG have nothing to do with this (but mob behaviour in many circumstances, which helps a lot), arguing "BH can have some weapons others can't use just like in EQ" is the worst thing you can argue. It is PRECISELY because it is like EQ that makes me warn dev team about that.



Regards

This question has already been asked many times. I asked it once and it ended up in a 7 page long thread. The genreral consensus was that Scatter Pistol is BH weapon and that's it. It's the law. Don't ask why, 'cause poeple are gonna keep repeating the same thing over and over, it's a BH weapon. I gave up on my original question of why is it only a BH weapon when everybody just keep saying the same thing. Some had a good point that if swordmans are master of swords they should be able to weild a lightsaber too. But in the context of the game it isn't so. Maybe they should rename the scatter pistoll to something likle saw-off carbine or something,I don't know. Then we'd stop asking for it. Search on my name to see my post and read the thread if you have time. It somewhat degenerated into a Pistoleer VS BH but it has some good posts.