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Thread: Live Patch Update 9/4 results post them here

Dangaio
Fri Sep 05, 2003 9:30 am
#66

well here is how you fix it.. everyone drop skills and take up BH.. then the Nerf gods will seek you out and nerf BH and up Pistoleer.. With the questions I see the developers asking in the Dev forum it is clear they are ignorant about the problems in the game.. seems they pick their favorite whiners about nerfing stuff and do it.. I think they made this game so complicated that they themselves dont even know how to keep it balanced..
finum
Fri Sep 05, 2003 9:33 am
#67






Belial001 wrote:

Just cant go one thread without mentioning bounter hunters can ya!


Sad pathetic losers


Cry me a river







/pistolwhip Belial001


/deathblow Belial001


/flatulence face Belial001






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ChachiTron5000
Fri Sep 05, 2003 10:22 am
#68

go Fii! go Fii!


get your fart on!


lol


my new hobby is chasing you around these forums!


w00t




Chachi


It's not the East or the West side (No it's not) It's not the North or the South side (No it's not) It's the Dark Side! (You are correct) You can't front on the Empire! To all you Vader-haters out there... We'll blow your planet up!


chomp


EasyMcRhinopants
Fri Sep 05, 2003 11:07 am
#69

Oh, I forgot to mention, pistolwhip HAM cost of my character (naked) is 91 w/ a scout. I think that's the same as it was before.


If knockdown was nearly as useful as before, then a high-ish ham cost would make sense. But now it should be lower.


I sincerely hope that the knockdown ham costs aren't so insane for the other classes.

Solfire
Fri Sep 05, 2003 11:14 am
#70

PCBean,


once you reach 4 boxes into an elite profession the con of creatures that are white/yellow to you now will drop, meaning you will have to move to higher level mobs for xp. at master level this happens again rendering those old creatures you used to hunt green con and worth no xp.


Tantuine
Fri Sep 05, 2003 6:13 pm
#71

I tried pistol whip and it does knock the opp. down, didn't notice the time delay tho. I did notice that the action cost DID NOT seem to be lowered. I was doing 133 before and still doing the same now. Damage was also fairly crappy. Appears they nerfed the what they saw as a problem (KD) but the convienently forgot to reduce the action cost AND increase the damage. Big surprise.


Also noticed mobs I was fighting counterattacked/evaded/dodged quite a bit compared to what they used to do. I had one Desert Eopie do it three times in 5 attacks, once while it was supposed to be knocked down.


I evaded one time in the 3 hours I was playing. I don't mind mobs being more defensive and evading a bit more but aren't we supposed to be smarter then they are? Shouldn't we AT LEAST be able to evade them as well as they evade us?




Tommyknocker
~ Master Doctor ~
+ Aspiring Master Pistoleer +


HarlequinGrins
Fri Sep 05, 2003 7:39 pm
#72

Okay...I have been silent for a while because I was new to pistoleer...now I am decently skilled (0-3-4-3) in pistoleer, so I feel as though I have a right to be able to make some comments from what I have seen. First of all, I still do not have any skill in one tree....BECAUSE THAT ENTIRE TREE IS BROKEN! People say 'this skill is broken or that skill is broken' this is not the case...the entire profession is broken IMHO...1 out of 4 lines has NO USE WHATSOEVER since bodyshot 3 and dodges do not seem to work from every pistoleer I have heard from...secondly, the way I see it, the only decent pistoleer shot was a friggin bug! Currently the nest pistoleer shots are a marksman shot and a BASIC NOVICE PISTOLEER SHOT (of course I am speaking of health shots and body shot 2) people are saying how at least fan shot is decent...body shot 2 is better than fan shot by alot...yeah, it does half the damage, but targets 1 of 3 pools....you do the math. I am frustrated that both of my professions are not working currently...armorsmith and pistoleer...this is a profession that needs to be fixed...part of the reason the devs have never bothered to fix what is broken is because we had that bugged cool-as-hell disarmshot2...now that that is gone, we are left with a profession where the 'unbalancing' bug has been fixed, leaving us with so many bugs that make our profession useless...or close to it...*sigh* anyway, I doubt that this will ever even be read by Holo or anything...I can't remember seeing a dev respond to anything on here except maybe once every month or two...PLEASE Jaegen...HELP US!


Thank you all who took the time to read this...please respond if you thikn anything I said should be backed up or incorrect.



-Iago


Trickshot with no tricks left and Armorsmith who is unable to create armor




Iago Ekkadi - Valcyn
Master Artisan / Almost Master Armorsmith / Almost Master Pistoleer

-- "Don't f--k with the Jedi Master, son!" - Mark Hamill
Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back
Keito_Temreh
Fri Sep 05, 2003 7:51 pm
#73

Get used to it, it's sony afterall the creators of Everquest, the game that defined mobflation. Mobs will Always be able to do more than you can, even a npc of the exact same class as you will be UBER and be 5 times as strong as you, his defenses will be better and his accuracy and damage 3 times what you can do, it's what game designers all a lazyman's fix for poor Artificial Intelligence. Want to challenge me? Make me kill a group of 6 white cons that fight with the same specials and defenses i have and the same HAM, make me REALLY think twice about taking on a couple of yellow cons and not even consider trying something red. But this is sony and they will just use mobflation as it's easier to code and costs them less time and money, although producing a much lower quality product that will not endure age well. I still remember the first time having a scout mob in Daoc spot my group and it ran off, we thought nothing of it, 5 mins later we were all dead because it went a long way off and brought back a veritable army to wipe us out. I was floored, that's the kind of AI i want to see, not mobs with more health etc.. than i could ever possible conceive having, sure some mobs should like rancors but a stormtrooper shouldn't, nor any other humanoid a player could be.



Keito Tarmeh Master Bounty Hunter/Master Pistoleer Valcyn : Retired
Brant Hogan Master Combat Medic/Master Carbineer Bloodfin : Retired
Notam Vavaso Master Pilot/Master Carbineer/Master Bounty Hunter Chilastra : Active
AfflictedOne
Fri Sep 05, 2003 8:12 pm
#74

Well I know the action costs for both melee defense 1 and low blow are exactly the same as they were before patch. So yeah some things were left out.


MagusZDark
Fri Sep 05, 2003 8:42 pm
#75

Belial001 -


It's people like you who give BH's a bad name.

Keito_Temreh
Fri Sep 05, 2003 8:44 pm
#76

Hi i'm Han solo, just wanted the rebellion to know they should be **edit** happy i'm around cause i can do 7k ham damage and kill a stormtrooper in a single shot, i know i know stormtrooper armor is supposed to suck against blasters it's designed to do well against melee and unarmed opponents while providing environment protection like life support but hey this is Sony's star wars and lucas isn't around so i'm all you got kid, better pay up the credits cause the rest of the rebel army sucks. Yep you heard it, me chewie, luke, leia, and 2 droids are all that stands between the empire and every world being destroyed by the death star. Really the rest of you are just around to polish our clothes and give us places to hide when we need supplies and medical attention.



Keito Tarmeh Master Bounty Hunter/Master Pistoleer Valcyn : Retired
Brant Hogan Master Combat Medic/Master Carbineer Bloodfin : Retired
Notam Vavaso Master Pilot/Master Carbineer/Master Bounty Hunter Chilastra : Active
Ypiana
Fri Sep 05, 2003 8:45 pm
#77

Best way to solo in this game is being a ranger. Almost all other combat classes need groups. It takes a long time but with pistol at 3/4/3/3 I can take down two bull rontos simultaneously. You just have to save your action for the healthshot1,2 combo and the trap throwing, and you can do it without running out of sight of the lair.


Personally I think it's boring hunting by myself. But exploring solo I love.


Once patches for ranger bear trap, lure, hunting blind, and tripwire come out, I will be doing a lot more solo hunting.


-- YP




I killed my parents... You're next!
/godmode 1
Ypiana
Fri Sep 05, 2003 9:55 pm
#78

Hey MagusZDark:


How well does BH pistol and Master Gunfighter actually work out? Sounds pretty tough, but so does 'master gunfighter,'


I might be getting bored with Ranger soon and looking to shift.


-- YP




I killed my parents... You're next!
/godmode 1
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