Pistoleer Archive

Thread: Joining the nerf bounty hunters club

OMNIblue
Sat Aug 02, 2003 11:14 am
#53

LOL you can READ my frustration...

Serisouly I wish ppl did understand their skill trees much better then they already do. A pistoleer can take on a BH any day as long as he knows what he is doing.. From what I gather, what we have is a bunch of novices assuming OR masters that dont understand their own skillz.

If you hit master pistoleer before they mod the class you will know what I mean.

We are overpowered.. Way over powered.. Unfortunelately most of you cannot see this yet. Just wait a few weeks untill you get that master pistoleer title and your opinions might have some grounds.



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Mordib1
Sat Aug 02, 2003 11:34 pm
#54






vGeist wrote:
Rotian you're one of those babies that can only enjoy a vid game if it has a god mode option. If you are truly that confident Underhand shot is not over powered like I said, you don't need to worry about it. Now take a midol can calm down Shirley.





You're right. He has nothing to worry about.


The Devs are raising the damage done by the Bounty Hunter weapon specials in the next big patch. Just thought you'd like to know.





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Master Bounty Hunter
Kiri Storm - Imperial Inquisition

DiLune
Sun Aug 03, 2003 12:35 am
#55

Hehe. And this was so entertaining until logic took over. I mean really people...
Scorpio27
Sun Aug 03, 2003 1:10 am
#56

Geist please post your candyass char name and which server it is currently rotting that I might avoid you like the plague or PK your ass on regular basis! People like you need to get back to their gameboys! Why don't you go hit the gym man! It will do much good to your obviously unbalanced testosterone levels (oh that last word might have been too difficult for your low 30 IQ sorry!).
Excalibur_CE
Thu Sep 18, 2003 5:23 am
#57

hmmmmm.... if you think BH is sooo much better than whatever it is you are geist, which for all we know your a novice marksman, then why dont you just become a BH or commando?




Gambit
Jedi Wannabe

-Excalibur-
Retired Hologrinder
Keito_Temreh
Thu Sep 18, 2003 5:56 am
#58

Let me just state for the record that for the most part i am comfortable with what BHs currently have. However there is ONE issue that bothers me to no end, for one it's overpowered, number two it encroaches on our brothers the riflemen.


Eyeshot in it's current implementation uses action to fire, a healable pool, which equates to very very fast high damage shots to a NON-HEALABLE POOL. Riflemen pay dearly for their ability to hit the mind, they have horrid defenses and they have HUGE ham costs because damaging the mind is very very powerful, it tends to be the smallest pool on most players and it's un-healable. having an ability that uses action, a potentially unlimited ham pool, is incredibly powerful, in fact it's unbalancing and makes a rifleman pointless. A rifleman if he spams his mind attacks will be out of mind generally after killing ONE target. A Bounty hunter is supposed to be VERY tough one on one but currently they can kill man many targets making them out of whack compared to other classes.


Pistols use action to fire, a pistoleer might be able to heal his action and this is fine because we don't have any mind targetable attacks, riflemen use the mind pool to attack the mind, very balanced in my honest opinion. bounty hunters use ACTION to attack the MIND POOL. This is the problem with eyeshot, not the damage it does but the potentially unlimited damage it can do, no matter how high your mind pool is you are going to go down, period.


i'm a reasonable man, i really am, it's the only problem i have with the bounty hunter class, it's the most powerful attack in the game and you can potentially use it all day and never break a sweat. I would and i'm sure most classes would be willing to even let you have one of our better specials if it's changed to be of limited use, like it should be.


Let me make myself clear, for the most part i feel bounty hunter is fine currently except for how eyeshot works, make it use mind pool to attack the mind and it will be in line where it should be. Lastly it costs very little ham compared to what riflemen have to spend to use it, it needs to be increased by at least 10%, this is a guess i may not be asking for a high enough increase or it may be slightly too high, maybe 5% but you understand what i'm saying.


I have no other complaints with the BH class, that's it, if this was done i feel the game would be heading in a much brighter direction. If mind becomes healable i feel all a rifleman will be is a gimped pistoleer.


If mind becomes healable then healing of any kind during combat needs to be eliminated, much like crafting during combat, it just isn't very realistic to be stitching yourself up in the middle of a fight. because if it goes live and this isn't prevented the only good way to do pvp will be to have some medic skill, and the fights will be very very long because the potential to heal will be infinite.


Now i hope now that i have spoken logically that any bounty hunter who reads this understands what this could do to the game, it wouldn't even be a nerf to you. We are all combat classes, healing in combat throws the game so out of whack it isn't funny, so either eyshot needs to be changed or healing in combat needs to be stopped, it just shouldn't be possible to be healed while fighting or to heal someone who is fighting, the only way you should be able to be healed bu someone else is if you are incapped on the ground and they aren't engaged. This isn't a fantasy rpg, magic doesn't exist, the only people who can heal themselves are Jedi and they use the force to do it, of course we all know a jedi will be as powerful as 50 normal combatants combined.


Please no flames, just use logice and see where i am going with this. This would not only help us but bounty hunters as well.


Keito Tarmeh


Pistoleer/Ranger/Ranged Support Specialist


Valcyn galaxy




Keito Tarmeh Master Bounty Hunter/Master Pistoleer Valcyn : Retired
Brant Hogan Master Combat Medic/Master Carbineer Bloodfin : Retired
Notam Vavaso Master Pilot/Master Carbineer/Master Bounty Hunter Chilastra : Active
Taeldan
Thu Sep 18, 2003 6:34 am
#59

My guild needed healers so I changed my class from a bh with 3 3 3 2 to a pistoleer/combat medic. I think the ppl whining about BH are alot of crybabies. I have used underhand shot and it isn't as great as you think it is and it eats the hams away to nothing very fast. Start worrying about our problems with not enough pistol certs and things like that than crying about BH. They use a ton of skill points for the skills they get and they deserve it. And eyeshot is good but it isn't god mode. I know that just using eyeshot through battles will not kill your pvp opponents. (I have tried) And the famous llc that ppl say is way to powerful....it is way powerful but you could't hit a krayt dragon from 20 meters away if it is moving or you are....and if both are movie....wow you are screwed. BH weapon speeds are fast...big deal by the time we get to master of either class the weapons we are buying are only like 1.5 speed anyways so either one of us will have it down to 1.0 easily. Stop crying about other classes and worry about your own.

Lawn_Darth
Thu Sep 18, 2003 6:47 am
#60

Don't be a knob and ask to nerf anyone! Instead ask that your class be fixed. That way we avoid the **edit** seesaw effect. You know nerf BH and Fix pistoleer.. 3 weeks later its the BH cry of nerf pistoleer and fix BH



Besides be thank full that at least some classes are getting love. Perhaps pistoleers time will come




Nukra Vol
Jaegen88
Thu Sep 18, 2003 7:55 am
#61

Old thread, and not constructive (now), let it die please.



Jagen88
Jaegen Kel'daron - Master Gunfighter
maldito2
Thu Sep 18, 2003 8:14 am
#62

to be honest I can't use underhandshot, i get close to 400 ham points taken for using it, and since its been nerfed Im lucky if it sticks, it works maybe 20% - 30% of the time.


and this thread I hope doesn't represent the masses


cause we BH have never asked for a nerf on anyone especially Pistoleers, you should be trying to get your class fixed and not unfiix other classes to meet your standards


With love, oquosa Thatoo, chilstra server




Oquosa
Ex- "Pre xp raise" Master Bounty Hunter

17 professions later I'm sticking with pistoleer.
Bye bye jedi Dreams!!
Philosopher1976
Thu Sep 18, 2003 10:34 am
#63

Please let this old, old thread die. Not constructive, not needed.





Samra Hael
Master Pistoleer • Expert Bounty Hunter
KOTOR • Scylla


Jedi_Fenrir
Thu Sep 18, 2003 10:50 am
#64

The only thing I hate is that BH's can one shot kill. Same with commandos I just can't stand 1 shot kills in pvp.



Raijin Otaran
Captain of SMH
Easy-Exanip
Thu Sep 18, 2003 8:13 pm
#65

Guys cant we listen to radio or something?


Hey the Bh knock down shot is powerfull and that class desrves that skill.


I have fought a number of Bh's and it is nasty. However notice that Bh , Commando's are extremely powerfull, however notice the lack of any defensive skills any of these so elite proffesions have.


Yes as a pistoleer/master ranger I can with regularity dodge flamethrower hits and other such nasty uber attacks. Not to say I have not been taken down by them but more than not I avoid them or give my opponents


a difficult target to hit. Yes they can shoot for alot of damage but you shuold see the looks on there face when you dodge their flame thrower/underhand/uber shot and knock them down.


Rember pistoleers speed and motion are your advantages. pistoleers are 1 of 2 professions that get pistol accuracy while moving. If you move he can not hit you as often and when they are eating up time (hi time penalties for uber attacks) you are stinging him more often.


Oh no dont bring your gun you will only make him angry..



Exanip - I shoot Bounty Hunters all day because everyone is one.


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