Pistoleer Archive

Thread: Whine and you shall receive. Thank you Rifleman

Philosopher1976
Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:34 pm
#53






MarcoRenaldi wrote:



Because I know this will come up yes we hit the mind pool and we pay a terrible toll for it by killing ourselves, but BH can hit mind better and faster without mind costs and CM can disease a mind in two ticks and be out of firing range when they throw the disease pack.


Before you start throwing these "FACTS" please have the decency to atleast have a clue as to what you are tlaking about.






If you're killing yourself via HAM costs, that just means that you aren't a very smart player. Anyone can easily avoid HAM costs with buffs and powerups. Plus, with your weapons, you don't need to fire many shots to kill someone in PvP.


You're right that BHs and CMs can hit the mind pool, but what does this have to do with Pistoleers? We're screwed when we face all of you.






Samra Hael
Master Pistoleer • Expert Bounty Hunter
KOTOR • Scylla


MarcoRenaldi
Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:38 pm
#54

If you stay in our range long enough for us to hit you with our 3 to 4 shots to bring you down you deserve to die, but no one ever does they rush us either forcing us to shoot point blank or run either way we cant hit you again except by pure and utter luck.



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Philosopher1976
Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:46 pm
#55






MarcoRenaldi wrote:
If you stay in our range long enough for us to hit you with our 3 to 4 shots to bring you down you deserve to die, but no one ever does they rush us either forcing us to shoot point blank or run either way we cant hit you again except by pure and utter luck.




As a Master Rifleman, you can hit accurately across the same range as Pistoleers. Plus you're getting +78 Rifle Accuracy and +85 Rifle Aiming in the next patch, so you might even have an advantage at that point.


It doesn't even take 3 to 4 shots from a T21 to incap someone in PvP ... it just takes one good /mindshot2, because it takes at least 4-5 /firstaids to get rid of the bleed and by that time you're incapped.






Samra Hael
Master Pistoleer • Expert Bounty Hunter
KOTOR • Scylla


DiLune
Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:48 pm
#56

Now Phil, you know how the riflemen get mad when you tell them how to play your toon. You play a pistoleer and couldn't possibly have fired a rifle before. And don't give me any of that "I'ma master marksman for BH" garbage. I'm on to you!
PsychoticChipmunk
Wed Oct 29, 2003 9:57 pm
#57

I'm sorry but isn't it pistoleer whining that spearheaded the T-21 nerf? Instead of getting your gun fixed you got ours destroyed. Now we, in an attempt to reestablish our gun, (if it is indeed our fault for the proposed nerf) get yoursdestroyed. At least we are going to hell down the roadpaved withgood intentions. This sounds like karma to me,without the whole death and reincarnation thing.



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roguestrike
Wed Oct 29, 2003 11:15 pm
#58

Psychomagus wrote:


u dumbass pissed-oleers are some of the biggest, no wait, THE biggest crybababes in the game. Grow up and learn to live in a world where your weapons are appropriatly powered. why in the **edit** should a pistol do more base damge than a t21? you really think pistols are more powerful then rifles? if you do, it explains why you choose pissed-oleer as a dumbass profession to begin with.


dumbass crybabies








Ok lets look at this situation. In real life ther eis a pistol called a Desert Eagel {sp} it is a 50 cal pistol. It uses the same bullet as a 50 cal rifel. Thus making the weapon have the same firepower. The only difference between a 50 cal rifel and a Desert Eagel {sp} is the range at which the weapon is accurate. This just shows that some of the most powerful rifels and some of the most powerful pistols do the same damage in real life.




Sev'er Sirax
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I am not a smuggler.
I am an Importer

Ahoce
Wed Oct 29, 2003 11:18 pm
#59

First off, someone cries nerf and look what happens. Im sorry your best gun blows ass but you chosed the rifleman proffestion, so live with it, dont come here complaining that out FGW5 is better than your rifle, stay away from pistoleers, in major PvP battles, thats what i see rifleman on Scylla do, and they do fine. The Devs look at something that is not a problem at all, and **edit** up something else. Theres a few proffesions out there that need atleast 5 times more attention than having the FWG5 nerfed becuase its to good. Look at the carbineer, nothing in that proffesion works at all except a few moves, and still they dont do what the discription says they do. Atleast your Rifleman abilities work. thats all im going to say.



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They have forced me to destroy them, and I will.

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Kubernetes
Wed Oct 29, 2003 11:41 pm
#60






roguestrike wrote:

Psychomagus wrote:


u dumbass pissed-oleers are some of the biggest, no wait, THE biggest crybababes in the game. Grow up and learn to live in a world where your weapons are appropriatly powered. why in the **edit** should a pistol do more base damge than a t21? you really think pistols are more powerful then rifles? if you do, it explains why you choose pissed-oleer as a dumbass profession to begin with.


dumbass crybabies









Ok lets look at this situation. In real life ther eis a pistol called a Desert Eagel {sp} it is a 50 cal pistol. It uses the same bullet as a 50 cal rifel. Thus making the weapon have the same firepower. The only difference between a 50 cal rifel and a Desert Eagel {sp} is the range at which the weapon is accurate. This just shows that some of the most powerful rifels and some of the most powerful pistols do the same damage in real life.






Are you retarded? A 50 cal pistol round is nowhere near as powerful as a 50 cal rifle round. The rifle round has probably 10 times the muzzle energy. Crap, a 7mm Rem Mag rifle round has 10 times the hitting power of a .44 magnum pistol round. The caliber only denotes the bullet's diameter, not the case length or powder volume.








Philosopher1976:


If you're killing yourself via HAM costs, that just means that you aren't a very smart player.




Spoken like a typical pistoleer--never bothered to try firing a rifle orcarbine in a real fight. Yeah, you can buff, but not everyone is a doctor or can afford the buffs (not to mention thatbuffs are broken right now). The reality is that a carbineer or rifleman will incap himself if spamming specials. I guess since youuse pistols you thinkeveryone elseis in the same boat? Typical ignorant post...




Hasdrubal Carthago/ KNR/ Valcyn

Master Doctor/ Novice TKA/ ex-Master Carbineer
Doctors' Motto: Stop the Tumble Monkeys!
PsychoticChipmunk
Thu Oct 30, 2003 12:03 am
#61






Ahoce wrote:
First off, someone cries nerf and look what happens. Im sorry your best gun blows ass but you chosed the rifleman proffestion, so live with it, dont come here complaining that out FGW5 is better than your rifle, stay away from pistoleers, in major PvP battles, thats what i see rifleman on Scylla do, and they do fine. The Devs look at something that is not a problem at all, and **edit** up something else. Theres a few proffesions out there that need atleast 5 times more attention than having the FWG5 nerfed becuase its to good. Look at the carbineer, nothing in that proffesion works at all except a few moves, and still they dont do what the discription says they do. Atleast your Rifleman abilities work. thats all im going to say.





I chose the rifleman profession at launch, I went to master marksman and an unarmed expert before I grabbed rifleman but still that was going to be my bread and butter and I knew it at launch. Guess what our main gun wasn't broken then...gasp it was working quite well in fact it would come close to rivaling the damage that commandoes and BH's do now so I was expecting to get into a reasonably good combat prof that had a good weapon. 2 days prior to me hitting novice the T-21 patch goes in meaning that I get 1 good rifle (that is near broken now) and some broken dreams. Oh well I live with it and move along, however now you are saying that we are gimping you by destroying your best gun when that is exactly what you did to us and expecting us to feel sorry for you or repent our ways and plea with the devs to let you guys stay powerful? Hypocritical doesn't describe it. Oh and we have our share of broken things, the concealment line comes to mind. We may not be the worst off class in the game but we are pretty low on the ranged combat chain. Plus we have a lot of stealth injuries. Limited shots, unable to use good armor, creature warping affects us worst (commandoes now too), enhancing our gun takes an almost impossible amount of resources...in fact it was impossible until aldeon talked to a dev, our main attacks remove us from group usability, et. al.


And don't compare real life situations to the game, there is a pistol that can do the same amount of damage as a rifle!!!! Guess what a rifle can hit you from 100 times the distance that the pistol will likely hit you, and a rifle can go fully automatic meanwhile your still squeezing the trigger every round.


I still don't understand why you guys are supposed to be the fastest firer's I thought carbineers were meant to be the speedsters in shots. Sorry about this but quit forcing us on the defensive it's getting ridiculous.




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