Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Pistoleer Issues Designer responses
Oh my god. A 'twirly move'? Somebody needs to check their testicular fortitude!
I think I'll just keep laughing/spitting on my corpses for a victory celebration, if and when I need one.
On a more important note, Q-3PO totally avoided the Body Shot 3 issue. Jaegen88 provided us with sound stats that a person could do more damage in an amount of time with BS2 than BS3, and effectively at a lower HAM Cost. I view this issue, as well as defense modifiers and the possibility of VIEWING armor ratings on the examine menu, to be integral to our success in continuing our mastery of the pistoleer profession.
Also, I think that along with 'more certs' we should also address the fact that the DX2 (pistoleer tree) is not significantly superior to the FWG5(marksman tree), and in a lot of cases is worse than an FWG5for PvP combat or any other MOB that doesn't take acid damage, for that matter.
Let's fix the certs we have before we start adding new, hrm? Dual pistols would kick frickin' ass, however the holster idea I think is pretty cool too. Shame Q-3PO says it will take awhile to put holsters into the game, I'd love a black shoulder holster, that would be so sweet. Honestly, I think every weapon in the game should have its own holster. Don't you guys think it's a little stupid for everyone in the game go everywhere with their weapon equipped and in hand? I think it looks silly, everyone needs some form of a holster.
Just my two cents.
"Ticked off that BH is better at pistols than a pistoleer is? Me too, but I bought into it and became a novice BH so I could grab all their pistol skills and cert's 
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DiLune wrote:
most positive piece is the confirmation of my suspicions. They will be adding new weapons into the game. Our issue with the BH pistol went out the window because hopefully this means there will be some cool higher pistoleer cert pistols.
Here Here!
That was by and far my only real issue since I'm still a novice and figured they would fix the specials by the time Imoved up. But already having all certs and knowing most of them are junk had me pretty disheartened.
In regards to the specials I don't have yet. (So I won't be disappointed if they change it for the 'worse' in a sense) I'm actually looking forward to disarm shot working as the Devs intend. Depending on damage done, I totally expect to hear a lot of whining in the future by non-pistoleers because their beloved gun they paid an arm & a leg for just got wacked pretty severely.
I'm thinking: Knockdown then stack & spam Disarm Shot. Though it doesn't knock the gun out of their 'hand' it seems to me this could be a formidable special when stacked.
But of course I'm speaking out of the dirty end of my digestive track because like I said, I'm still only a novice. 
Vesentac wrote:
II have to admit, Jaegen88 is a **edit** good pistoleer correspondent.
Though I am disappointed in the twirly and comestic issues were considered to be top priority.
Vesentac, you're right, he is.
All you folks trashing Jaegen88 about the issues obviously don't stay abreast of of this forum. He has always made it clear that the list of Pistoleer issues is complied of OUR issues not his unilateral issues. In fact I've seen him say MANY times that he disagrees with a number of them but squeaky wheel gets the grease and if an issue is discussed and raised as an issue over others then thats what he sends to the Devs.
So Vesentac, I assume you ment you are disappointed at your fellow Pistoleers for focusing on the cosmetic issues...
Jaegen88 HAS sent the defensive issues to the Devs as far as I know, but believe it was lumped in with the issues of the specials. Which Q said they will fix.
BTW, I actually DODGED last night! Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! (but not in PvP...)
Nakaguss wrote:
why dont you make disarming shot freaking disarm! hehhe
Nakaguss, I assume that once this special 'work's as intended' as Q has said, it very well may do that better than just knocking it out of their hand for a couple of seconds. Think of it, if you can pop people between 500-1000 points damage to their weapon! We're going to become weaponsmith's best friends...
A Master Pistoleer should be as strong as a Master BH because a BH is NOT a pure combat class.
They are Master Scouts and have tracking skills, making them a more well-rounded profession. A lot of players simply ignore this and become BHs to PvP, and then flame anyone who doesn'tthink BH's should own in PvP.
A Commando should own a Pistoleer in PvP. A Bounty Hunter should NOT. And no, I'm not a Pistoleer.
Prometheus79 wrote:
A Master Pistoleer should be as strong as a Master BH because a BH is NOT a pure combat class.
They are Master Scouts and have tracking skills, making them a more well-rounded profession. A lot of players simply ignore this and become BHs to PvP, and then flame anyone who doesn'tthink BH's should own in PvP.
A Commando should own a Pistoleer in PvP. A Bounty Hunter should NOT. And no, I'm not a Pistoleer.
Completely agree. Commando needs to own a lot of people (especially us Pistoleers) as soon as they get the love they so desperately deserve...
BH vrs professional soldier Response...................
It appears you fall into the Dumb catagory sad but true let me draw you a picture in colors
skills points what about weapons use points and combat points ? you seem to entirely forget those huh?
Or is it your to lazy to look at them ?
Experence using a weapon should affect combat potential not using up a lot of skill points that are EASY and FAST to do compared to combat Xp and weapons use XP
BH as is ........Is lame its a gimmie
No way should a BH even come close to our combat potential on those grounds alone !
So on those grounds you should (IE) all BH peoples should be about 1/4 of our combat potential not the other way around. But commen sense isnt in a BH skill tree .they do make good traps for kreetles and nice camps to lounge in however.
BH having to master 2 professions not related to BH is a silly idea as well you BH guys/girls should have a skill tree like ours.hmmm and use SWs BH weapons not OURs lets see i remember a rocket thing on the back of jango Fett and wire (thing a ma bob) that ties someone hands up a pistol that made a funny noise I believe every Bh is also a starship pilot that ive saw,the flame gun thing on the arm was realy kool and HOT ! So really the entire BH class needs to be redone so you guys can really be a SWs BH. Ohhh and you have to get that kool armor too restricted to that class only of course and maybe only crafted by your class too ......the way i see it the Bhs need to craft all there own weaponry ...thats a way to use up those skill points in something related to the BH field !
gee what a great Idea perhaps all you Bhs who read this shoulds take it further on your own forum....shake things up a little... If the Bhs actually earned their combat potential nobody could gripe about how bad they are ...I wouldnt
Somebody with vision should fix these classes, In pistoleer we work our tails off just to get zapped by someone who does 1/4 of the work we do .....Then those poor slobs cant do anything but hunt other players because there class is so boring , because they have to give up a lot of skill points on useless non profession related garbage .
Why does a BH have to learn Rifle no rifle is in the BH tree (stupid) I dont see any kool traps or snares ? what about a super camp he can hide in and get defense bonuses ? Why can a BH use rifle skills with a pistol but has no rifle in his tree ? Why doesnt a super bad BH haveto actually earn his skills with combat xps like we do and why do they get double our damage to shoot up there tree like a rocket with 1 box in carbine ?
Ya a lot of adjustment is needed in these classes.....not just pistoleer not just BH but all of them period.And where is that kool boba fett armor at, I cant wait to see a BH zoom over me with his rocket pak going I would have a perfect view from my usual position .........On my back looking up !
Due to the amount of combat xp and weapons xp a rifleman a carbiner and a pistoleer has to earn in their trees we are the special forces of the galaxy and should wipe the floor with any bounty hunter in any battle .
The BHprofession has to lose a lot of skill points learning non related skills does not equal combat effectiviness.......maybe you can understand that .........If you cant i hope the people who run this game will ..(I pray) and will fix and address the issue by doing just that or by making the BH line earn their combat potential like we do because right now a BH can be a overlord with 1/4 of the work everyone else has to put out. In 1/4 of the time.........CHEEP and UBER
You cant argue against that and win.........No way .so gripe about all those useless skills you have to lose to get ubers skills you dont EARN To win pvp combats you dont DESERVE to win.
Nuff said..........................................And btw i am not responding to more sensless/Brainless posts here from BHs on this issue/post..I will just refer you back to this post.We (Rifle/pistol/carbine professionalsare right they ( BHs) are wrong and thats that !
Most of the pistoleer people who post here are 10 times nicer than me it seems to these dumb people who come here saying how much they give up to kill us so easy and fast...I salute and respectall you nice guys but were finishing last !
LevaOripa
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I have a pistol but i cant shoot it laying on my back !
I sware to god if they add some puss Gun Twirl after combat ends or some new holster animation before they fix commando, im gonnna...i dont even know. You guys stop arguing about some little pistolieer thing and look at the commandos post about their problems. Youd be suprised.
Shouldve of named us Suicide Bombers Not Commandos
Just go and Do It.
Pownage