Pistoleer Archive

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Bounty hunter specialize in killing things.

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What do pistoleers specialize in?

i dont think we should have better abilities, i am mad about the gun the only way i have found to make a uber dx2 is to get drops i have been after a nym drop for 3 days and i havent seen it, and for the skill points put in to it we should have a better gun not abilities our abilities are just fine (except the fact that pistole melee 2 doesnt work ) they have to give u a better gun

Pistoleer 3-2-3-3/Smuggler 2-4-1-0

JUST A BETTER GUN AND EVERYONE WILL BE HAPPY

The whole BH vs Pistloeer argument is stupid. Assuming no other skills taken, of course a BH should be more effective in combat versus a Pistoleer. However, why should a BH be more adept with a pistol than a Pistoleer? A (master) Pistoleer has roughly 3x the pistol XP than the BH, and over 5x the combat XP. With these numbers, wouldn't it make sense that in a BH vs Pistoleer battle, USING ONLY PISTOLS, a pistoleer should win? The Pistoleer has more expierience with the weapon of choice!

Luckily for the Bounty Hunter, he has at his disposal a whole arsenal of weapons to chose from, and since BH are so smart, they can determine when they will be outmatched with a certain weapon (such as fighting a pistoleer with a pistol), so he can use another weapon, such as a flame thrower or llc.

Yes, yes, blah blah, more skill points blah blah. As a reward for spending his skillpoints, the BH gets many certifications with many exotic weapons, and is very deadly with each. The pistoleer spend many many more expierience points on learning a single weapon, and is a pro at that one weapon alone. The BH spends far more skillponts, and in turn has far more skills. Just because he spends so many skillpoints does not necessarily mean he should be a master of every weapon he can pick up. He is a jack-of-all-trades, as said earlier in the thread, he is skilled with many different weapons, whereas the pistoleer is skilled with just one.

All things being equal, in a pistol vs pistol battle of pistoleer vs BH, the pistoleer should come out on top. BUT, the BH is not forced to use his pistol against a MASTER of the same weapon, he can use another, more powerful weapon. Please feel free to flame me and tell me how stupid I am for thinking this.

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deadnewbie wrote:

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Bounty hunter specialize in killing things.

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What do pistoleers specialize in?

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Weaponsmithing, smuggling, dancing, healing, etc, etc, etc, etc....

Here are thestats, you decide:

Master Pistoleer
Points Used: 92
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Pistol Accuracy +95
Pistol Speed +74
Ranged Defense +7
Dodge +30
Pistol Accuracy While Moving +30
Pistol Aiming +16
Defense vs Stun +20
Defense vs Blind +20
Defense vs Dizzy +20
Defense vs Posture Change +20
Defense vs Knockdown +30
Melee Defense +13
Pistol Accuracy While Standing +15

Bounty Hunter (Pistol Only)
Points Used: 174
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Pistol Accuracy +110
Pistol Speed +80
Ranged Defense +15
General Ranged Aiming +30
Melee Defense +2
Alertness +10
(No Defense Mods)

Master Pistoleer with Bounty Hunter (Pistol Only)
Points Used: 237
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Pistol Accuracy +155
Pistol Speed +129
Ranged Defense +20
General Ranged Aiming +30
Melee Defense +15
Alertness +10
Dodge +30
Pistol Accuracy While Moving +30
Pistol Aiming +16
Defense vs Stun +20
Defense vs Blind +20
Defense vs Dizzy +20
Defense vs Posture Change +20
Defense vs Knockdown +30
Pistol Accuracy While Standing +15

its all good that you kickass at pistols, go ahead, rape me in a pistol vs pistol battle (me being BH)

BUT the thing is, i'm a jack of all trades, as you say. and being a jack of all trades, i should beable to use my other weapons to get the upper hand on you, ESPECIALLY if all you got is pistoleer. now i'm not saying that if you also have a gurrek and stimD's i should win anyways. i'm saying that in the amount of skillpoints i use to gain the specials i use, i should beable to have a fighting chance. not a pathetic wish of actually knocking you down for a fraction of a second, if that.

i would give all the experience i have.
i would get 1,000,000 more combat XP
for just 10 more skill points.

skill points are finite. they run out very quick. unlike experience, they are golden.
i have hundreds and hundreds of thousands of experience points i cannot even spend because.............

i have no skill points.

glad i could clear that up for ya.

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BassPlayinWookiee wrote:

i'm saying that in the amount of skillpoints i use to gain the specials i use, i should beable to have a fighting chance. not a pathetic wish of actually knocking you down for a fraction of a second, if that.

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Quite frankly, this is a personal problem for the Bounty Hunters. Take it up with the devs. All I, and anyone else, really, am arguing is that the master pistoleer spends far more time and energy focusing on learning the pistol inside and out than a bounty hunter does, and yet the BH is quicker and more accurate with a pistol than a pistoleer is.

The last thing I think this game needs is another nerf. Please devs, don't nerf the BH's pistoleer skills. Instead, increase the Pistoleer's. Hell, make it harder to obtain master, make it cost more skillpoints, whatever. Master Pistoleer. Just think about that phrase. It paints a picture of someone who has a low-riding six-shooter(fwg5 or dx2) and can put a hole in anything from any distance as fast as you can show it to him. You can toss a deck of cards in the air, and he can put 9 holes in the 9 of hearts before it hits the ground. he is a MASTER of the pistol. Of all the classes in the game, why wouldn't the master pistoleer be the fastest and most accurate with the pistol?

When I first started up the pistoleer tree so long ago, I figured that at master, I'd have +100 to pistol accuracy and speed, because I'm a master, right? I am really, REALLY good with a pistol! Imagine my disappointment when I find that as a master of the pistol, I only have +74 speed. Then, try to imagine my even further disappointment when I learn that there is another class out there who is quicker than the master. I tell you, it makes no sense in my eyes.

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Syralis wrote:
i would give all the experience i have.
i would get 1,000,000 more combat XP
for just 10 more skill points.

skill points are finite. they run out very quick. unlike experience, they are golden.
i have hundreds and hundreds of thousands of experience points i cannot even spend because.............

i have no skill points.

glad i could clear that up for ya.

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I am very sorry that you have run out of skillpoints. Consider surrendering some existing skills to free up more points if there is another profession you would like to persue.

Hheheh

How long will these arguments go on for with BH and Pistoleer

Being a Master pistoleer I beleive that we shouldnt be as strong as the BH as they do use more skill points

But this is where we become stronger than them.

OUR SECOND PROFFESION

I do not expect many pistoleers to be able to take out a Master/expert BH unless the BH is dumb

Or Pistoleer has a sweet krayt FWG5

We still have a immense amount of Skill points left to master another skilled proffesion

CH maybe Doctor Maybe etc etc

Think of your template make it work for you

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Im a pistoleer 0-0-3-1 and i beat a master bh. Bleed shot a a graul can do alot.

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This is either an out right lie or a very dumb "Master" BH. I'll hose you before any creature can touch me. I have beat Master CH with 3 rancors chasing me, nothing a little fan shot and burst run cant handle. Screw the Animals, take the CH.

I've tried pointing out the xp and actual pistol-dedicated skill box comparisons whenever a BH screamed 217 at me.But that doesn't mean I have anythingagainst BHs being amazing at PvP. I just get tired of the anti-pistoleer stuff. Yes, 217 skill points is a lot. Yes, that should get them something. Should it make them better a pistol when most of that has nothing to do with pistol? No. That's ridiculous. The prereqs for BH might mean that their skill trees are a bit better than they otherwise would be, but the amount of boxes and xp a Master Pistoleer put into pure pistol is still far exceeding that.

get a nice composite chest plate and helmet and a Bounty Hunter with a Pistol in his hand cant touch a Pistoleer. Nuff said..

BH Pistol/Pistoleer on the other hand will whoop your azz.

Learn who your getting beaten by, because its not bounty hunters, its bounty hunter hybrids.