Pistoleer Archive

See us pistoleers are a helpful bunch. When you start digging a hole, we can't help but help make it deeper.

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Taewyn wrote:

Novice BH's 2.5%....Novice pistoleers...6.76%

Pistoleers are nearly triple the next most popular class...And most of those BH's are only pistoleer+BH pistol line......

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You are such a moron.

There are more NOVICE pistoleer's because:

Bounty Hunter

Smuggler

Commando

Take up our profession in order to inhance the accuracy and speed of their pistol from their own tree, of which, BOunty Hunter's are already faster and more accurate then a master pistoleer for which reason we have no clue.

Doctor's

Creature Handler's

Artisan's (all non combat professions)

Take up the pistoleer line for either a compliment to their profession for assisting (CH/Doc's), or for self defense uses only when out in the wild while either searching for resources or something of the similar. It's not because we are the most overpowering, because we're not, we're just the most practical for defensive purposes, thus our high defensive abilities which you know little about. Realize why there are so many NOVICE and so little ELITE'S, compaired to the other professions.

"lol you called me a PvP newbie who spams one special....I am not, in fact I am willing to bet I could defeat you with relative ease."

And you base your assumption on? Im the terror in hills. I was the first imperial to go in AH and take it down in the early days of release.(AOE KD was fun <grin>. I Play my class well, I spent 249 points into combat.I don't belive in medicore.Best weapons and armor are a click away. With that said, I'll be damned if it doesn't take a group to kill me.Fear me like you fear God, because I bring death.

"Where do you PvP? Most of our fighting is around bases...In close quaters combat the 2.5 meelee mod on the LLC makes it a liability in combat, especially in close quaters. I am not going to use a weapon that allows me to be one hit even in armor"

Yes, the thought of using the LLC when melees arn't attacking you is such a hard concept to grasp. Simple F1-f12 could make you switch your weapons with lightning speed. I can't even belive you argue this.

"In all my posts I hold one thing to be true...If you spend the point in combat, you should be equally as powerful as somone who spends just as much, given that they combo thier skills wisley and not ignoratnly."

/Agree

"By my "BH" logic a pistoleer who spends 217 skill points should be just as strong as an MBH.....and btw...MBH is 217 not 233....."

Woops. 217.. 33 skill points left, you can see why I made the error.

"I fail to see your point, in one breath you say my logic is flawed, in the next you agree with my points?"

What I meant was, most BH's think they should be walking demigods because they spend the 217 points.If I spend 249 skill points into combat, I expect to be superior in combat.Guess its my twisted form of sarcasm.

"Where on this whole thread did I ask for a nerf?"

You didn't. I viewed you as the avg BH that whats everything nerfed except them. Forgive me sire.-DP

The only good thing master pistoleer is good for is the speed and accuracy bonus. I'll show you the specials I use. They're all smuggler specials. Pistoleering is mostly a numbers game. The specials aren't worth crap. All the good pistol specials are in all the other professions' trees.

If you were fighting me, you wouldn't know I'm a pistoleer by the moves I use or the weapon I wield.

BH's think they are just so f-ing great and should be the l337 PwNZr of the game

Never thought this would happen, but I have to back up vGeist on this one.

Bacon CRA

And you base your assumption on?

Nothing, I was trying to Illustrate why it was pointless for you to tell somone they were "bad" in pvp when you infact know nothing about them .

Yes, the thought of using the LLC when melees arn't attacking you is such a hard concept to grasp. Simple F1-f12 could make you switch your weapons with lightning speed. I can't even belive you argue this.

Ganking is a part of life, especially when you have to manuveuver carfully to stay within range for the special.....Thatsmall distraction while you look at the distance numbers is life or death, sorry not worth it .

What I meant was, most BH's think they should be walking demigods because they spend the 217 points.If I spend 249 skill points into combat, I expect to be superior in combat.Guess its my twisted form of sarcasm.

I am not one of them , if you spend 217 skill points correctly (not in a stupid fashion) then by all means you should be every bit as powerful, will definetly agree with you there.

If you were fighting me, you wouldn't know I'm a pistoleer by the moves I use or the weapon I wield.

Let me guess....

Launcher pistol..

Panic shot+low blow+ ample amount of last ditches?

Yah Id have pegged you for a pistoleer, because all those specials are worthless without the pistoleer numbers.

I completly agree, pistoleers are all numbers....Thier specials need to be fixed

I wish I posted my other post on this thread as well. The only way of fixing the Pistoleer profession is by giving our experience something different to elliminate the dabbler's. Once the dabbler's are out of here then the dev's can see how broken this class truely is. As it sit's, the pistoleer profession si mearly a support profession for the other professions that use pistol's, that's it.

Taewyn, to my knownledge, Commando's do not get specials, they take up our line of specials so they actually have some sort of pistol specials. At least that's the answer a commando gave me when I brought up the idea above. BH, as you know, take up Novice for our speed and accuracy to inhance their own, That's 8 branches, half the tree, not master, and I do not believe they have enough to take up master pistoleer. Smuggler, in order to optimize their low blow(I think that's the one with the x7 modifier) they take up the speed line first, then the accuracy from there, not the entire tree. Our speed isn't only in master, half of it is in the tree, the other half is in the master box, all they need is half and their set, unlike us.

Accuracy while moving and accuracy is not the same thing, don't confuse them, don't add them together, there is a post showing how it works. BH are Faster and more Accurate only going up 4 boxes while it takes us 8 boxes plus our master box which is 9 boxes in order to reach an accuracy and speed less then that of a 4 box BH, yes, this is not counting the marksmen 4 box for pistol which we all take anyways.

FWG5, panic shot, low blow, and ample amounts of last ditches. Never touched a launcher pistol.

It's a **edit** good thing I have about 2 dozen krayt FWG5's stocked up and I PvE with my vibroknuckles. Those FWG5's last a **edit** month for purposes of PvP

Now, I assume because people are going to post pics, they will post their own high damage shots? Or just high damage shots of that they were killed from?

This will end up very bad and very stupid.

I have and regularly post my high damage shots. I stopped tracking after I hit a 1000+ shot on a target with a non-krayt gun months ago. If I can nail someone for 1k damage with a non-krayt gun (FWG5) the nerf isn't going to change much.

Of course, the standard reaction from the players is typical.