Pistoleer Archive

One more simple question.

If you thinkbounty huntersare a laughing stock then why do you still play one and why do you still spend so much time on the BH boards.

USUALLY if someone thinks their profession sucks they switch to another one.

Caelrie is my hero.

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Caelrie wrote:

Pay special attention to this part:

"In addition, the Light Lightning Cannon should damage all weaponry, droids, and other machinery-based items wielded by the defender at least on equal terms with the Pistoleer special attack returning the same result. (Disarm Shot)"

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=bounty_hunter&message.id=32612

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Oh you just love to start the little flames dont you. I have no idea what you are trying to do Caelrie. You are the worst kind of troll. You have no loyalty to either one proffesion or another. Your main and absolute goal in any forum is to stir things up, get lots of attention off angry posters and get the arguement you so look forward too. It may be harsh but dont you realise your opinion in the BH forums isnt really wanted? and I imagine the Pistoleer one too. I suggest you return to your former Proffesion as you obviously hate playing as your current one.

Ps.. A good shag might get rid of some of that pent up anger and aggression you keep buried down inside you? But hell what am i saying? any self respecting pretty girl able to get a man in the first place aint playing MMO's with a bunch of nerds like us


Regards

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seiv wrote:

You really did go way overboard this time though

TROLL!

Seiv

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Of course you didn't like it. You're a bounty hunter. Others did like it. Flame all you like. Not everyone shares your opinion of my disseminating that post.

I have no problems at all with what Caelrie posted. When bounty hunters start asking for things that make everyone else pointless, I think it's completely fair to let those people know so they can have their say.

Or is it that you don't want to hear from the professions you're making pointless?

I think the original poster posted here because they do not like us. IMO Caelrie (or however it's spelled) spends considerable time on the BH boards bashing us and posting many negative posts about us. As I said in my reply the original post in question is over a month old, no one really took it seriously after awhile and no one really wants these changes done. I feel that Caelrie is just trying to cause more grief for bounty hunters by egging pistoleers to troll this thread on the BH boards.

Notice where Caelrie said "head over there and make your voices heard".

Remember the original thread was over a month old and has been eaten by the forum monster for weeks now.

Wepps revived it but remember he has some ideas that many bounty hunters agree. He also has A LOT of ideas we don't. He also said that he wanted his points up for debate. They are ideas and he is not our new correspondant. These ideas are not written stone nor should people assume "this is what's going to happen".

Also the fact that the majority of posts in this thread areBH's saying "most bounty hunter'sdon't agree with this",pistoleers who are just as tired of the Pistoleer/BH fighinting aswe areand Caelrie's posts eggingpistoleers to troll the original thread on the BH boards thereby insuring that it won't stop should serve to tell you something I hope.

Try not to view all the BHs as idiots. Every class that is well off will always draw 90% of the game's morons to their ranks, so just because those individuals speak out, does not mean every BH is a clown. This was easily seen earlier when the Pistoleers were the best off, and the said group of morons joined our class and started pissing off every other profession giving us a bad name. Now that we're broken, it seems a lot less Pistoleers are being stupid, and I'm willing to bet it's because theproblem-postersall went and joined the BHs or Commandoes.

I would advise others to read other threads from other bounty hunters besides wepps. He's a good guy with decent ideas but a lot of his stuff is over the top and not too many bounty hunters agree with him.

I would also love Caelrie to read my postto her from this thread and answer the issues contained within it. Yes it's long I know.

Pistoleers Caelrie is trolling. Anyone who spends more than 5 minutes a day on the BH forums knows this. No we are not scared that you will see what's going on and as far as I'm concerned you can read anything you want. Can't you just head over to the BH boards and see for yourself what's going on? Why do you need Caelrie to keep you informed on BH issues? She took one thread from one bounty hunter and is pounding it to death. There is bunk in every professions board and I myselfadmit there is more in ours because of all the l33t kiddies who just want to spam eyeshot in PvP. However there areplenty of bounty hunters who feel we should in no way bemasters of SWG. Funny how they never get mentioned by Caelrie. For instance I feel If they make mind damage healable it won't bother me one bit. I don't even have eyeshot yet and I don't PvP in the first place.

Isn't it funny that the majority of bounty hunter in this thread saying "we do not want to beuber, we do not agree with wepps, and we feel you are trolling and just causing trouble" are getting shot down, accused of denying the truth and being scared because we don't want others to see what's going on? Show me all the "WE ARE BOUNTY HUNTERS WE SHOULD PWN EVERYTHING" posts in this thread. Makes you wonder doesn't it?

There are plenty of other threads on the BH boards which Caelrie did not tell you about and probably never will. Heck even wepps himself made ANOTHER post that makes more sense than the one in question and pieces of it are getting ripped apart by other bounty hunters as well.

Heck if you wanna read a decent thread by a Master Bounty Hunter read this one.

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=bounty_hunter&message.id=47828

I'll give you a preview, the author feels we should not pwn everything and we should not pwn Jedi's.

Does it have a ton of responses. . . no but maybe it's because all the 12 year olds didn't just hit reply and go "w00t you roxorz!!!!" like they did with Wepps "report". I've also asked our departed but still somewhat official correspondant to sticky Lowca's report along with Wepps's report.

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atimes wrote:

Bottom Line: Marks are tough. Easy one's have 6K HAM and tough ones have 10K HAM. Yes the devs lowered difficulty. Pre patch my average mark was 10K HAM and would hit me for 300-400 pts of damage every few seconds. Now they are 8K HAM and hit me for 200-300 every few seconds.

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I just want to know one thing, How can you say that mobs with 10k HAM are tough? or the 6k ham's are tough? We have seen screenshots and I have personally seen BH hit for over 10K damage in PvE. How can it be tough if your taking out your marks in ONE shot? before the mark even has a chance to see you and run towards you? And lets not even start PvP, since SOE put in the 75% reduction to END one shot kills and now they give BH and Commando's the ability to do 1 shot kills, that's a hell of a way to contradict themselves.

So, how is it difficult to take down a 10k HAM mob with a weapon that can do up to10k-12k damage? worse case senario, you'll have to shot twice in order to take him down. Meanwhile, we're struggling and dieing to mobs with 4k HAM because our KD is getting resisted 15 times in a row and our accuracy sucks so much I can't even hit a barn if I ran into it! Our dodge sucks gnats and when it does work, we're running away from the mob trying to gain distance and dodge makes us stop dead in our tracks, sidestep, then continue moving, giving the MOB ample time to to catch up to us and kill us.

Once again, with 10k-12k shots, how are 6k-10k mobs difficult? Right, right, right, I got it, please go preach elsewhere, I'm tired of all the false priest trying to rape my chosen profession of anything it has going for it, which is currently a special that belongs to Marksmen!

And Atimes, that post is nothing personal against you, honestly. I just get PISSED off when I read a bounty hunter saying that they can't take down a 6k ham mob when after the LLC was 'fixed' I had a BH following me around, laughing at me and telling me that I sucked, and killing everything I was attacking in one shot. So, because of this fruitcake in your ranks, I now dispize any BH that comes here saying they can't take down a 6k ham mob when the mobs he was KSing from me where 9k and he was doing it in ONE SHOT. meanwhile I have to use snare traps for 10 minutes of kiting, praying that the trap doesn't fail!

Caelrie,

Do you honestly hold one iota of common sense?

First you come on this board and try to spin a thread into something that it is not; since the title of this thread is well beyond misleading, it's a bold face lie.

Second, when anyone tries to come on here to say otherwise, you try to push them off as the minority and/or defend why Wepps is the new correspondent when SOE has said nothing of the sort.

While I do agree with quite a bit of what is said in that assessment. I don't agree with everything, and the same with Lowca's observations. It really sounds like you're simply trying to stir up contention not debate, and revive a bickering between two classes that has just started to die down a bit.

To answer your questions Bolanos.

First off you are making assumptions about the uberness LLC which is a common problem. I encourage you to read on to see what I mean.

Marks are usually armored (sometimes with a armor rating of 2 while the mostyou and Ias players get is AR1) and on some occassions has high resists to electricity (30% or more). Notwo shot kills, not now, not ever.

That kind of damage you are talking about which I personally have yet pull off is done with a special with the LLC. The most I've done with that special is 3K against an unarmored mob with low resists to electricity. That special also has a range of under 20 meters. If you are beyond 16 or so meters you get an out of range message when you try to use it. Regular attacks do about 1K of damage which while impressive is slow, inaccurate and done on a random pool. The only way to get decent hits with the LLC is to either kneel or go prone. Also as you know with any weapon if you use specials the rate of fire is even slower. It's about 5 seconds for mebetween attacks when using an LLC special and for the record I have LLC I

When you equip the LLC the computer AI of the mark goes into melee mode and begins to charge you with an axe or something. Rememberthe LLC is most effective when prone or kneeling and since the weapon is horribly inaccurate, kiting with it is ineffective since you miss so much (and remember it's a slow gun). Also if you kite chances are you will be out of range if you try to use the specials. You DO NOT want to get hit by a mark when they are in melee mode. I've been hit while beefed up on a tatooine sunburn and a full suit of composite armor and my action pool was reduced by 75% in one hit. So in melee marks do even more damage. I use my LLC to get off a few heavy hitting regular shots or to finish them off since kiting with the weapon is useless.

What that bounty hunter was doing to you was kill stealing plain and simple. They wait for YOU to engage the mob then while it's attacking YOU and ignoring HIM he takes his time, walks up to within melee range with no harm to him and fires out a LLC special against an unarmored mob with a vunerability against electricity. Was the mob knocked down. Did the BH knock the mob down then pull out the LLC.

Nothing personal but take it from a guy who's used this weapon against a mark and not to just grief.

It ain't gonna be a two shot kill any mark. Trust me on this.

You have 2 choices. You can believe me since I have no incentive to lie to you or you can keep going on about how my marks are uber easy and I'm just complaining.