Pistoleer Archive

You will still be firing at 1 shot per second with a 2.2-2.4 scatter with an 80 pistol spd. Thats spamming Torso or eye shot. The same holds true for fwgs.

Drop all of your pistoleer and take some CH.

I prefer Torso for PVE and Eye for PVP.

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BubbleVicious wrote:

Drop all of your pistoleer

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Lol, the truth hurts. Don't do this if you value any defenses later when they work hehe. Of course, if you get some CH as you said, who needs defenses in PvE? You are still hosed in PvP no matter what defenses you are due to the spamming problem so I guess its still true.

/sigh

People time after time in pistoleer seem to ignore what is best bun we can use. The DH 17. It has the best dam per sec of any gun out there at least as far as the Gorath server goes. That might be different on other servers depending on resources available.

I do the math on every gun I buy or think about buying. So far the DH 17 has avgeraged about 10% better. The one I currently have after being sliced has increase of dam by 31% I then use a power-up that lowers speed by 32% and increases min dam by 16%. My final stats on gun is 138/186 1.2 delay.

Now as far as which shot I use with best total damage output per sec is fanshot. (Please note my pistol speed is +41) After numerous timing tests I find my avg. per shot is 960 , dam per sec 640, firing at rate of one fanshot every 1.5 secs.

Of course having more pistolspeed wouldmake a big difference. Having another 30 - 40 % would get shot delay down to 1 sec. So how does that compare to actual damge in game to others? Well lets see if you could do that fan shot once a sec that would mean 960 radom dam a sec. Simple enough math. Now for something to think about as it makes for pistoleer bragging rights. BH using LLC with special lightning 2 was only able to do 860 dam a sec!

BH also had best of the best llc and had gotten a good slice. Also note resists were not a factor as all the testing was done on lairs on LOK that had 64k ham. So other than not having any specials that rule like a dizzy or disease or a knockdown or even an eyeshot, for pure random ham damage we are still right up there with the best of the combat elite professions.

Please note this does not mean I dont think we need fixing because that not true. We need a lot of things corrected for sure. It just is as far as random ham dam we are doing as well as we could hope.

Whats wrong with this thread is:

If I want to be grand with a pistol and a pvp champ with a pistol, I should stay away from pistoleer.

Next time I play I will be a master pistoleer....

Now I am thinking I should just join the ranks of everyother bounty hunter out there, so I can be a good pistoleer.

Dashai

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EasyMcRhinopants wrote:
i'm a master with a fast gun, so I'm leaning towards stopping shot. Previous to that, fanshot. Previous to that, bodyshot2.

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im expert bh and 4-1-4-4 in pistoleer. i have a 1.4 speed krayt scatter and i can take people out in anywhere from 2-5 hits with stopping shot. they are down within 4 seconds.if u got the speed get stopping shot cause it is slow without any speed mods

Last ditch is better, by quite a lot actually, I think that's the point here. there are ways to be better in every case, by removing pistoleer from your template.

Hey Jagen is there any truth about the DH17 what that guy was talking about? ... I think Fan shot is the best.. I use 5fwg 53-246 made with Krayt tissue.. power up can take it up too290..speed I may be wrong but think its2.1Fan shot in PvE 500-1500 mostly avg. is 1100... PvP I hit avg.400 and its very fast..

Jax

My question is does Pistol melee def 1 aka pistol whip do anything helpful? Im not sure if I am just not using it correctly since last nerf or what. I can knock down once in a great while, and the mob jumps right back up and contiues pumeling my ass without any delay. Is there a way to utilize this skill or is it worthless?

Stopping shot takes forever for me, I only have one box in the line that gives you speed modifiers. So will fan shot work better for me orbe even slower?

Pistolwhip is basically worthless right now. It has two very limited uses:

1) In a PvP duel when someone is stupid enough to start the duel within 7m of you (if they start it further away you'll never be able to use it because it's impossible to hit a moving target due to server lag).

2) If a mob warps to you you can use Pistolwhip to buy you 2-3 seconds while you run away.

That's about all I can think of. Generally it's a worthless skill right now.

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DiLune wrote:
Which reminds me to ask my question again, what is the penalty for using a non-certified weapon? ATST are going to be blast vuln now...meaning using a non-certified launcher pistol might not be bad. But what is the penalty?

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Sad but true , I barely have any Pistoleer skills to round off my template ... a pistol PVE killer .

What I do is this ....

BH with Pistoleer tree

Rifleman with one box for Mindshot II

Pistoleer with one box in speed

Medic 3/0/4/0

With this template I'm devastating in PvE and quite good in PvP . If a mob has high mind pools , I stack two huge mind bleeds and eye shot with the scatter till it drops , usually takes around 20 seconds per 10k mind bar , for large or equivelent Health pools I do two Heatlh Shot bleeds and then Torso Bleed and then Torso Shot all the way . I can heal myself up to full health at any time with Stim C's ( essential in PvE and usefull at times in PvP ) . I have knockdown and I'm considering picking up flurry shot again for the coming KD un-nerfs .

Pretty good , no ? For stats I go 800 / 800 / 1100 which keeps me alive long enough to kill most people easily in PvP , and , ya know ... PvE is just a joke anyways , no problem staying alive there .