Pistoleer Archive

I have a quesion what is the pistoleer Speed, accuracy, at master? skill mod wise in your skills menu?

The only reason i called you names, is because your a mr. know-it-all who thinks they know everything, and its pretty obvious in the way you talk

No I simply enjoy knowing about things before I go making outlandish statements like "this move killed me in one hit"...

I stated a simple matter of fact genius, at least bring up a viable point in your argument.

A matter of fact means you stated a fact...I have disproved three times that you could not have been incaped in one hit...Which means you did not state any such facts, you were lying, using a hysterics argument to try and garner sympathy for a nerf, just admit it man.

Maybe my friend killed me in 2 shots, but either way it was just as fast so does it matter??

Two shots is two seconds, thats 1 second longer then 1 shot...That is a life age in PvP, some fights I have had, our won and lost in one second, by god yes it does matter.....

BTW even 2 shots, is only around 500 damage even with top end scatters, Want to go for three?

The main point i'm trying to make is that i was incap in a couple of seconds, and i'm sorry but to me that seems a little unfair don't you think?

No, many classes can still kill you in one hit if they are lucky...PvP is a fast game, if BH's get nerfed even to oblivion, I can still think of 3 classes that can kill somone in under 4 seconds ....

If you dont like speed, dont PvP

ok ok peace

I was just really irritated that i could die so fast being a pistoleer 3/2/4/3, and he's a bh with just the pistol line in bh filled, and i did squat for damage yet he killed me almost immediately.

I'm a pistoleer, and I reconize that BH's have to put in a lot more time and Skills points for their profession. Thus, they should be able to beat us in PVP. But when a BH can take down 5 rebels, all elite, experienced players, with just eyeshots to hell on each one, that is insane. I say to stop the SPAMMING of that skill by either moving itup to master bh, like one suggested, put a time between uses in(like knockdowns), or increase the HAM usage of that one skill.

For us pistoleers, we really suck next to commandos and BH's when hunting mobs...I think its our weapons...we need a better set of weapons...or just un-nerf the DX2 pistol, as thats the only AP pistol we have, but it has horrible sucky range,HAM, and Speed.

Just a few suggestions for the game, maybe my comments will trickle down. And if you disagree, please do so in a respectful way, i hate flaming...

Teawyn, you seem to be a great player you have never lost a duel it seems. Could you clarify when if ever you have been beaten. You take offense to a pistoller saying that he was one hit killed by a BH that was his friend and then go on to flame him and insinuate that he is a liar. First of all you dont know what type of gun that Bh was using the quality of scatter pistols varies between galexies. It could have been a kraytescatter pistol for all we know. Second of all the person could have been expierencing lag when he was playing (ever dueled in coronet before) that would make it seem like it was only one hit when it could have beenin actuallity3 or 4. Then you go onsay that you are some uber tatactiacin that has never been killed by a commando. I personally find that rather unbelieveable. You mean to tell me that a commando has never flamed you while you were attacking another personwhile a raid in to an opposing faction town. If this has never happened to you either you dont PvP a lot or .... you might be telling a little bit of a fib.Ok,for the sake of discussion iwill concede to you that you always beat acommando when you first face him. What about the revenge tefa commando has never comeback stood right next to you and beginhis revenge tef by making you extra crispy. Teawyn if you want to post stuff on the pistoller boards please be respectful to the people whom, this secionof theboards, are for; the pistoleers

Basically pistollers are beingbitch slapped by the devs. I have more pistol xp thana strait BH no pistoller skills. For some reson thoua BH always seems to drop me likeI was a spainsh class that started at 7:30 in the morning. It really doesnt matter how many shots it took for the guy to be killed byhis friend. What really matters is that we all know it could have been any of us.

Tasslehoff Raska Master pistoller-CH

Viva Jaegen as a corespondent- you are the only reason so many of us are holding on to this skill, i am one of them

P.S. Every time i read a BH post they say that we have all these extra skill pints we should use themI do. I call out my commie graul maulers (Lenin and Stalin) the BH in game call me a **edit** player lol.

Teawyn, you seem to be a great player you have never lost a duel it seems. Could you clarify when if ever you have been beaten.

I am overt a large portion of my time playing...I have only been beaten bythree people...

One was a master carbineer, who quite simply destroyed me faster then I could hit my heal button lol .

The other was a TKA, who slaped a KD/Dizzy on my while I was trying to get a handle on his pets...

The other was a pistoleer, who i admit got two lucky fan shots for 454 damage, both on my action bar (which was low due to me torso shoting his friend)

Both these guys knew where and how to hit me (a BH) And for that I aplaud them .

First of all you dont know what type of gun that Bh was using the quality of scatter pistols varies between galexies

No we had a scatter "contest" on the BH forum, the absolute top end scatters with 35% damage increase, and made with the best materials, and 32% power ups, normally top out at 285....

Personally I have spent 200k and my best scatter tops out at 220, (Many scatters went to the destroy button because of speed slices, or low damage slices)

However even the highest enhanced scatter I have ever seen it is impossible to do 450+ damage in PvP with eye shot.

I could see he was very visably anoyed with eye shot, and was just going off on the skill....Which I agree eye shot is wholy overpowered because of the fact that mind can not be healed..But thats a game issue, not a special move issue...

Then you go onsay that you are some uber tatactiacin that has never been killed by a commando.

Never, not even once...I have dueled/PvPed at least 27 diffrent commandoes, The closest I ever came to death was being knocked down to 45 action, but I quickly healed, and kept my distance and killed him...Its not uuber at all, commandos have been deemed this "god" class because of big damage numbers, In reality they are really pathetic at PvP...

What about the revenge tefa commando has never comeback stood right next to you and beginhis revenge tef by making you extra crispy.

Normally they at least redeclare out of respect, however I have had the revenge tef maneuver tried on me more then once....The solution is to..

1.) Keep moving....Never stop, thier accuracy suffers greatly if you move..

2.) Stay around water, and keep him 16+ meters away...

3.) Keep them moving, run in large circles, never ever let them kneel or gain accuracy...

4.) Eventually they will get tired and either shoot, or go away....

Teawyn if you want to post stuff on the pistoller boards please be respectful to the people whom, this secionof theboards, are for; the pistoleers

I am a pistoleer....People can have more then one char ...

It really doesnt matter how many shots it took for the guy to be killed byhis friend. What really matters is that we all know it could have been any of us.

Pistoleers have an extreamly difficult time killing a BH, I agree, The best thing I can tell you, is simple...

If you want to kill BH's, master carbineers, target thier action bar...

1.) Start the fight..

2.) Wear a helmet....with at least +40% resists acid.....as well as Chest and arm armor with +40% (legs and boots are not needed, as the BH will rarely target action)

3.) laugh as he spams eye shot, and take 80+ action damage per shot...

4.) Slam him with some leg shots 3's, with a speed sliced carbine.....

5.) Death blow him....

Not every class stacks up to every other class, But thats the reason we have so many skill points .....

Do pistoleers need imporvments? god yes...

Is everything said about BH's on the board true? No....

If you want to kill BH's, master carbineers, target thier action bar...

Thats supposed to read....become a master carbineers then follow the steps...

However I will say this, I agree with all of jaegens Ideas for fixes, the pistoleer tree needs alot of work. It is however not as hopeless out there as you all would be led to belive....

Point being, pistoleers ALSO need to be on the list of effective specials, IMO, if they are supposed to have anything to do with pistols.Right now everything except the speed and accuracy in the pistoleer line is second rate. Gun, specials, unique abilties...nada.

Sorry one more post...

I could not agree more, Pistoleers need unique things to thier class...

heck even if disarming shot unequiped your weapon, that would be usefull for 2 reasons..

1.) Whenever you equip a weapon and fire with it for the first time you have to stop for about 2 seconds....

2.) It takes the rythem out of your atack, this could be devastating in PvP....Even if it is only for a fraction of a second...

The pistoleer tree has so much potential, yet so little of it is relized

Sorry to be long winded and spammy but to clarify

The fights above where I was beaten, Are only where I have been killed by somone the first time I fought them, that day...

In other words, yes I have been killed by others who clone rush me until they simply pile too many bodies around me to move and force my mind to low to heal ....hehe, however none of them were commandoes

Am I the only person here who thinks it'swrong that if you are serious about PvP you need to go become a bounty hunter? Shouldn't the most common PvP classes be the speciality classes, Pistoleer and Carbineer, with Riflemen being support, not a class like the bounty hunter?

Why should they be the most common?

Whats the logic behind that?

Should not a commando be the most common PvP class, because Commandoes are tailor made for PvP?

Dinian ,

I've said time and time again, that I like the way smugglers have useful specials that compliment pistols.

I have never once suggested anything about them be nerfed, except the time issue. KD did need immunity. Panic shot too, or some sort of control on them. However, they messed them both up with a "too severe" nerf, like always. So yeah, I agree, "right now" low blow/panic shot/PMD1 are all not that steller, but it looks like they are getting fixed soon.

Now, even nerfed, those attacks are better than, say, PMD1, which not only has a KD, but is melee. And of course, that's really all pistoleers get in terms of "neat specials".

So yeah, I think smugglers AND BHs havespecials that are superior to anything in the pistoleer tree.

That's fine, I just would like to see pistoleers on the list, somehwere, you know what I mean? I mean, can we all have useful specials and unique abilities? In every case I've suggested new specials, I've said things like "but make it unique so we don't duplicate smuggler specials", because I am very sensitive to the fact that smugglers NEED unique pistol abilities in that line, since it's really all they get in the DF line (and feign death).

Point being, pistoleers ALSO need to be on the list of effective specials, IMO, if they are supposed to have anything to do with pistols.Right now everything except the speed and accuracy in the pistoleer line is second rate. Gun, specials, unique abilties...nada.