Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Fanshot On Test Center
Well if they are "fixing" fan shot to work the way it was suppose to, then they should also "fix" multi-target shot to work the way its suppose to also ( i.e.. New Multi-target shot = Current Fan shot).
Has anyone that has tested the T.C fan shot also tried out Multi-target shot on the T.C too to see if it now works?
Adera
As a cone shot, fanshot is one of the most useful shots pistoleers have. People complained because it actually shoots the way multi-target pistol shot shouldshoot. The people who complained are idiots, because they are under the assumption that the devs, WHEN,they remove the cone effect from fanshot (because you idiots complained), they will FIX multi-target pistol shot. Yes, in a perfect world they would do that. But anyone with a brain knows that the devs will simply remove theGOOD cone effect from fanshot, and leave it at that. They will not fix anything in return, leaving the pistoleer skills just as broken as before, except now weaker.
-Snape, Intrepid
Snix wrote:Osx,
Excuse me? what the hell am i talking about? Ask yourself that, i don't even know what you were trying to say.
Yes i am a pistoleer (master), and no, i don't dabble in BH.
With fanshot being aoe cone now, i can hit x number of targets in my sights for 1500+ dmg each, with one shot. I can't see what the problem is.
If you want to target a single enemy with random ham damage, or if you're not skilled enough to use a aoe cone attack without getting yourself killed, use stopping shot, simple.
Actually, like Dangaio said, FanShot was not meant to be a AE attack, it is right now because of some design error. In fact, I trully think it is our Multi Target Shot that should be what FanShot is right now.
We all like the actual FanShot effect BUT I hate it is available with minimum effort, making our Master Box more and more useless. If MTS is fixed that way, Master Box will be much more valuable and clearly not something you can laugh at.
For these reasons, I am supporting the FanShot hitting a single target many times and MTS doing the FanShot thing on every encounter in sight. Clearly better that way.
I just wish they would stop changeing everything 
I enjoy fan shot the way it is now.
No you are nuts..
As far as "fanning the hammer goes" this is so you can shoot multiple opponents at once, not so you can shoot the same guy 5 times. If you ever did watch those old westerns, a guy "fanning the hammer" would be shooting at a street full of people, or at a couple of guys on the roof, or at a bunch of guys in a crowded bar room. In a Quck Draw situation, he's only pulling the trigger once cuz he's going for speed. When he's fanning the gun he's hitting multiple targets with separate shots...
...exactly what Fan Shot currently does...
Please please please please don't change Fan Shot from what it is now - it's AWESOME and a lot of fun! Why change what makes the game fun to play?
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0043 Pistoleer - This says it all.. A dabbler Who just wants to keep what he likes and cares
What do I do with the last skill point?!?!?
nothing about fixing the profession as a whole.You are thinking only of yourself.
And for all your western film experience that you think you know what you are talking about you dont. Fan shot is exactly how I described it. Period. If you shot pistols in competition you would know. It does not mean shoot several people or targes quickly. It means faning the hammer of the weapon because that is the fastest way to get shots off. I see you as the type of person that only wants to fix Doctor skill tree -/4/-/- amd CH skill trees 4/4/-/4 and Pistol -/-/4/3 Because it effects you only. If you were a master pistoleer you would realize we would have two shots that do the same thing and fan shot (I did not give it the stupid name the developers did) states to hit a single target multiple times (again I did not give it the description the developers did) But you go ahead and rant and rave about things you know nothing about just to keep something you are happy with. If you want an AOE then get multi target, oh but wait you probably dont want to spend the points.. Figures.. Welcome to another example of ignorance
Dyriel,
Theres a big different between a AOE cone attack and what MTPS is doing (its broken but works kind of occasionally).
aoe cone hits all targets in the cone with a single shot, MTPS when it kind of works, hits one target, turns and hits the next, turns and hits the next ect ect.
i agree that fanshoit at the moment does not do what the description is, but that does not mean that it doesnt do what it is supposed to now. maybe the description needs updating.
remember the point out correspondant made trying to get us some different attacks as apposed to so many random ham attacks, well we got one and i hope we can keep it.
Snix wrote:
Dyriel,
Theres a big different between a AOE cone attack and what MTPS is doing (its broken but works kind of occasionally).
aoe cone hits all targets in the cone with a single shot, MTPS when it kind of works, hits one target, turns and hits the next, turns and hits the next ect ect.
i agree that fanshoit at the moment does not do what the description is, but that does not mean that it doesnt do what it is supposed to now. maybe the description needs updating.
remember the point out correspondant made trying to get us some different attacks as apposed to so many random ham attacks, well we got one and i hope we can keep it.
/signed, and thank you.
My only question is how does MTPS pick its targets? Is it just any within range? or is it any that are currently aggroed to you? I.e...can you Fan Shot a group, turn180dand Fan Shot another group, and then MTPS both groups?
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And as far as looking out for myself, **edit** straight. If I want a faster Stopping Shot (the way some of you one-shot-spam-addicts want Fan Shot) I just go get more speed + from somewhere. If I want a fun, fast and interesting shot that hits multiple targets (or a single target that's separated from others), I take Fan Shot. Simple as that.
Here's a better suggestion...leave Fan Shot as it is, fix MTPS for PvE's, and create a Stopping Shot 2 at master level for PvPs. Make Stopping Shot 2 either faster than Stopping Shot 1, or make it do more damage. That should satisfy those of us who *like* Fan Shot (hitting multiple targets for a really nice damage...does anyone not see how RIGHT that is...), and still appease the "I only wanna spam one kind of shot" people.
There you go, plain and simple, and it won't take much more coding. And no one has to scream "dabbler" either.
Dangaio wrote:
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And for all your western film experience that you think you know what you are talking about you dont. Fan shot is exactly how I described it. Period. If you shot pistols in competition you would know.
It seems you are confused about the difference between realityand fantasy, given that you are mixing the two in your "counter-example". Trying to say that the Old Western (movie) gunplayhas anything to do with real gunplay is rather ridiculous, don't you think? It's about as silly as saying a special shot in SWG should behave like a 'real' shot in reality. Oh...wait...
I just dont see how so many of you can miss the simple points...NO ONE is asking them to get rid of fan shot...do you UNDERSTAND that? What is being said is the way fan shot works now fits the description of multi shot NOT fan shot...Please take the time to go ingame and read the description of fan shot and then tell me this is how it works! Hmmm ya know what? IT DOES NOT WORK THE WAY INTENDED. Nobody wants the shot removed they just want it placed where it belongs and that is multi shot. The description for fan shot says ONE target MULTIPLE times...not MULTIPLE targets ONE time. Is it so hard for some of you to understand what is being asked? Simply move the shot as it is now and attach it to multi shot!Is that so hard to comprehend?
If you complain about it being changed to multi shot it is because you are a dabbler and just dont want to lose your uber shot! awww to bad!
Nemesis65,
Read what i wrote above about an aoe cone attack being totally different to MTPS.
Multi-Shot (it barely works, but i have seen it kind of work) targets one enemy and hits it, then you see your character turn and hit the next. Yes it hits multiple targets quickly, but in no way does it hit more then one target with a single shot, which is what fanshot and all aoe cone attacks do.
Laeren, i'm not sure how it picks its target because it is quite bugged at the moment. I do assume though that it suffers from the same bug as fanshot, where a enemy has to be in combat for it to do any damage.
Only time will tellif MTPS turns out to be as good as it should be as a master skill.
so its shooting multiple times @ 4.0 damage modification and 2.4 delay modification!?! that's better than last ditch regardless!!
too bad im just a smuggler