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sounds good deadnoob

but what do u do if the commando or bh is as optimized (drugs, buffs) as u are?

barth

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Ishpur wrote:

BH here with a great idea for ya all. You "should" get a move "like" Eyeshot and then.. hehe .. and then.....

you should lose..

77 Skill Points ( Points BHs waste on the non-pvp class of Master Scout ) then LOL

you should lose..

28 Skill Points ( Points used on Marksman Rifle and Carbine Skill )

Total= 105 Points you should be made to "waste" before you enjoy a special that does mind damage.

EVERYONE FORGETS HOW MUCH EYESHOT REALLY COSTS

So Pistoleer enjoy getting to have skill in many other professions.. we can't cuz Eyeshot is our baby and it cost us dearly.

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You can make good money off of master scout. I do. It doesn't cost you jack so don't hide behind that. Master Marksman is worth getting if you are a serious PvPer or PvEr. The bonuses to accuracy, speed, and defense are well worth it.

It will be moved to master so we can see who the real players vs. the pwners are. I'm Master Gunfighter Expert BH and I can tell you it's a cheap shot. As far as owning you will always be owned by a Master Gunfighter / BH Pistol 4 anyway. Why? Because I almost never miss, even with -blind- at 60 meters, hit you in any pool I want, and BS3, Torso shot, Eyeshot, Fanshot, and Stopping Shot all take 1 second. I've put down many BH Gunfighter wannabes. You chances of hitting me vs. my chances of hitting you are two different stories. The BHs who use carbine and LLC are the only ones who can compare.

-- YP

Oh yeah, one other thing...

3.7 million pistol XP and 500,000 combat xp vs. the craptastic 400,000 pistol and 40k combat xp needed to get eyeshot. You choose the quick and easy path, Master Gunfighters are artists and you'll never compare to us by using the cheapest shot in the game now matter how much you spam it. The funniest thing I've ever seen is a BH spamming eyeshot on me when I just popped a muon gold and me kicking the crap out of him. I hope you cry about all your precious lost skill points when your little baby eyeshot is moved to master BH, because if you think Scouting is a waste wait until you finish Investigation, which 9/10 of these BH wannabe owners will never do.

-- YP

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deadnewbie wrote:

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Great post Deadnewbie... you shouldbe on the Califonia ticket. You might be Arnold withone liners like that.

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Muon Gold, a helmet, a healthy does of Last Ditch at Master Pistoleer speed. It's the fastest ticket to the cloning facility most bounty hunters will see.

I think my record time on a bounty hunter is 3 seconds from the first shot to him needing a cloning facility. Swap in Stopping Shot and you're looking at a 5 seconds kill.

My stats are 800/800/1100 (800/800/1600 with Muon). God help the idiot who spams Eye Shot against that.

Look the math is really simple. Use all the skill points you have to work things to your advantage. I'm a pistoleer/smuggler/teras kasi/medic. I'm hard to kill anyway you slice it. At range, I rock your world. Up close I rock your world even harder.

Commandos have a hard time killing me (1800/1300/1100 HAM with Neutron pixie -- I kill them first then put out the fire). See a commando, pop neutron pixie, follow up with a Stim B. Rush in. Commando does a flame single. Pistol whip, a spam of stopping shots later. Death blow. At this point you can let the fire finish burning and still have HAM left over.

Combat medics have a hard time killing me (off 'em, meditate the disease/poison away).

The record for tonight was commando, bounty hunter, combat medic, and some brawler vs. me. I left 4 people dead outside of Bestine. I got set on fire a total of six times on Tatooine. I didn't get incapped once due to the fire.

Design your template well and you are unstoppable. The only thing I fear is someone with my exact same template and equipment. I've fought someone like that before. It was ugly and brutal.

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All the good bounty hunters use stopping shot and eyeshot with a krayt made scatter pistol capped at one second. I have fought against 4 particular bounty hunters alot of timesand I know use eyeshot and stopping shot exclusively. I jack up my mind bar with moun gold. I have a 76% composite helmet(soon to get a 85%). I am a zabrak and my mind stats are 1000/500/800. I get beat by these guys a vast majority of the time because they see my helmet and huge mind bar as an invite to just spam stopping shot. Oh, and I have a full suit of composite with around 45% resists that I wear. I don't know what kind of bounty hunters you fight newb, but the ones I deal with aren't as dumb as a box of rocks. Also, I would like to point out that you are not a true pistoleer. You are a hybrid, just like bounty hunter/pistoleers are hybrids. I am happy that you can "own" bounty hunters, but you yourself stated that you use TKA and smuggler skills to do this.

Designing your template means nothing if your mostly broken class gets nerfed with out any fixes. How do you design a template when you don't know what is going to work and what will remain broken? Ok, you have an uber template, congrats.

"a healthy does of Last Ditch"

Um, pistoleers don't have last ditch. You are just like the bounty hunter/pistoleer hybrids that come here and tell all us n00bs that pistoleer is fine and might be overpowered. Pistoleers are broken and gimped. Just because you can hide that by getting bounty hunter or smuggler does not mean that true master pistoleers are fine. I think everyone has seen the numbers. Everyone knows about the specials and stats that don't work. Why do people insist on telling us that pistoleer is fine because they are a smuggler/bounty hunter?

I'm a pistoleer, and I have no desire to get some kind of headshot attack. Leave that for the riflemen.

Just like a BH Can.

Fire KD

Confusion Shot (Your not getting up)

Torso Shot Till Dead

Hmmm..I have eyeshot and seem to only use it for -Blind-. I really can't wait till it's moved to master. It will keep idiot dabblers out of BH profession.

Yep. Pistoleers don't. Pistoleers also can't heal. They can't cure disease or poison either. I guess Pistoleer suck. But for some reason this Pistoleer doesn't. Why is that?

It is neither Pistoleer or Smugger or Teras Kasi that is dangerous in themselves. It is my combination of using all the skills in all of those trees (I'm not a dabbler btw, I master 2 of those 3 and working on Mastering the third) that makes me dangerous. Last Ditch with Pistoleer speeds. Unarmed dizzy with the better range of Pistolwhip (7m vs. 4m).

There are flaws within all 3 professions that I play. Teras Kasi has ranged weaknesses galore. Pistoleer have no good specials. Smugglers get no combat bonuses. You start putting them together and the one who holds all 3 begins to shine.

I got a lot of respect for anyone who masters a profession than someone who just grabs the uber shot. It'll be cool to see what happens when eyeshot goes to Master BH. For one I'm going to presume that 50% of the non-investigator bounty hunters will simply say 'forget it.' Another 25% are going to try, find out what it takes to do investigation, and say 'forget it.' So I expect a small increase in the number of BHs but no biggy.

-- YP

im going for master pistol, smuggler 0040 and doctor 0430. u are able touse (not craft) enhance packs, craft and use stimDs, use (not craft) drugs. dunno if enhances and drugs stack. if they do, ur a commando killer, and a nice benefit u can revive fallen comrades. its a very expensive template money wise though, cause u have to buy a lot of stuff and cannot craft anything to sell it on the bazar. when pistol is fixed u can drop rogue goin for master doc or something else. an alternative template would be tkmaster, pistolmaster, smuggler 0444, novice medic. u can use stimBs and u will have some income thru drugs an slicing. upside, stackin defenses of tk an pistol (when fixed) and tk moves of course, downside, always lookin for a doc to get enhances.

i just like the idea of enhancing my stats above 2000 and poppin in some drugs on top pf that heh. hope that works.

barth

Ok put this into the equal....

We ( BHs ) waste "tons" of skill points to get Eyeshot.. you don't like it.. offer us something that is PvP related and we'll gladly take the nerf that all you crabby Master Pistoleer/ Master Master (your choose)... have in store for use. Sorry Eyeshot rules and so do we.. BUT IF YOU WANT TO JOIN IN THE FUN.... SPEND THE GOD **edit** SKILL POINTS... it's a *@#*()(@.

Flame cone. Feign death. Wait. Get up. Death blow.

It really doesn't get much easier than that.

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Ishpur wrote:

Ok put this into the equal....

We ( BHs ) waste "tons" of skill points to get Eyeshot.. you don't like it.. offer us something that is PvP related and we'll gladly take the nerf that all you crabby Master Pistoleer/ Master Master (your choose)... have in store for use. Sorry Eyeshot rules and so do we.. BUT IF YOU WANT TO JOIN IN THE FUN.... SPEND THE GOD **edit** SKILL POINTS... it's a *@#*()(@.

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I really hate to dignify that atrocious post with a response, but...

• Are you seriously telling us that every skillpoint you have expended up until BH Pistol 2 is a "waste"?


• Are there no interesting, profitable, or useful skills up until that point?


• IsPVP in this gameabout one single special move?

Ok electricnomad lol.

You aresaying thatScouting skills have a use in PvP.ROFL!

All of these points below do not inclued the 15 points "WASTED" for novice Scout.

1) I can make a mean camp LOL. = (One line of Scouting) Better give up the fight now LOL = 14 skill points

2) I can run up hills faster and use less HAM when sprinting. WOOO. ROFL = 14 skill points

3) I can harvest like a mother. I can hit creatures with a plus "TEN" accuracy, and don't forget I can learn stats about your creature without the trouble of going to a website that already has the info I need.

4) I