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Thread: DX2 failed to kill Doctor.....

DiLune
Mon Sep 22, 2003 9:51 am
#14

Yeah, one on one you need a random HAM single target high damage shot. Multiple targets random HAM a cone fanshot would be great. Then a health targetted MTPS is great because with other master pistoleers (multiple people, hitting multiple people, but targetted on the health pool) you will wipe them out before they can heal. Then everything becomes a situational special, not a be all end all spam all the time type of thing.


But yeah, don't use BS2 in a PVP duel. Use fanshot until you hit master and then use stopping shot.

meagor
Mon Sep 22, 2003 11:35 am
#15

BAH....DX2s are a joke. I'm way more effective with my FWG5 thank the DX2. No I don't have all the stats, just watching the damage window it's very obvious. When I want a challenge I pick up the DX2....when I'm serious about killing, it's the FWG5 all the way. This is sad IMO cuz I really, really want a reward (in the way of a weapon)for becoming a nov pistoleer. Ahh well, I hope the devs address the DX2 very soon.



Spendor Galgon (Tirel) - Shadowfire
ecksrae
Mon Sep 22, 2003 11:37 am
#16

1. bodyshot is weak


2. if you dont know if he was buffed, assume he was. check enemies ham so you know how to attack them.


3. if I am fully buffed, I could probably stand there and let you shoot me with bs2, and I wouldnt need to med.


last week I killed 4 from a rp clan somewhere on Tatt(I was lost). I ran into their PA house, and they started shooting me and gave me some bleeds. 2-3 of them were shooting at me, and I could casually heal myself while fighting them. They finally had to hide in their house. Poor guys, while I was still lost, I saw them outside MOs Entha I think, and got 1 again. He was a funny roleplayer, and called me an "uba cheeta".


BTW, Im master gunfighter too.




Ecksrae
Master Nightsister Killer
ecksrae
Mon Sep 22, 2003 11:38 am
#17

Add: DX2 isnt very good for PVP, seems to miss alot.



Ecksrae
Master Nightsister Killer
Jaegen88
Mon Sep 22, 2003 1:01 pm
#18

That's another good point.


The single best PvP tank is the doctor profession.


You cannot bleed kill them easily, poison kill them easily, nor health/action kill them easily. If they buff mind and have armor on...you won't compete.


When I'm buffed (90% of the time I PvP), I have around 3000 health, 3000 action, and only 1000 mind.


I get heals for 1000-1900 per stim E from the doctor. I seriously doubt there is much you can do against that, if for instance, you're: Master pistoleer, novice medic, vs master pistoleer, master doctor, DX2 or not. I don't die from random attacks in PvP, pets/atsts/mind pool shots/mind poisons, are generally the only thing that slow me.


You really have to have something to balance that doc out, like commando, creature handler, BH, rifleman, buffs, faction pets, etc. You "can" load up enough damage if they are fightng you, but it generally takes more than just the pistoleer profession. Yes, I know it's sad that pistoleer don't do great vs anyone that's buffed in PvP, that's why pistoleers should have ranged nerfed to 32m...I mean, we can't kill at 64m, why not lower it to 32m..we won't miss it..right? (joke).




Jagen88
Jaegen Kel'daron - Master Gunfighter
Tenfo
Mon Sep 22, 2003 3:10 pm
#19

Yeah that makes the most sense having the DOCTOR as the front line uber combat person who no one can solo in PvP unless they get a lucky mind shot in or have 1k+ dmg using flame or something!


Who the heck thinks these development ideas through?


I played PvP for a SHORT while... shot, shot, heal, shot shot, heal, (100% health on Doctor) blah blah same old. TIRING!


Come on Devs lets not setup to have merchants (no pun) the next uber combat profession next to doctors!


Maybe merchant could slap you with a heavy taxation in battle and bankrupt you! ROFL


I agree with this post entirely.






l Tofeity Edeiso - MBH / Rifleman l l Tazon - Elder Jedi l
David665
Mon Sep 22, 2003 3:37 pm
#20

Yeah...that's why I quit PvP. A gunman should be able to take down a doctor easy.

Crimsonn
Mon Sep 22, 2003 5:34 pm
#21

The problem is the healing system in this game. I have never played an MMORPG that does have some cast timer with the chance to get interupted. Well UO had that at first for all spells, but they quickly nerfed it. Having a healing ability in this game makes you immensely more powerful, and not only for groups, which is normal for mmorpgs, but for any solo play, which is very unusual for mmorpgs.Healers usually trade solo power for group power. I have no idea why they made it this way, possibly it is because we don't get much HP and healers need to be able to heal others very quickly in high level play. The problem is this carries over to soloing, and PvP. The only way to kill a healer right now is either a 1 hit kill or mind damage. We all know mind damage is going to change eventually, and if 1 hit kills dont change then everyone might need to become a medic.


This is similar to melee vs. melee in UO after they came out with the melee fix. Bandages were so good that a fight between two standard melees (no poisons or anything like that) would come down to who ran out of bandages first. It could possibly take an hour for two melees to stop fighting (and no I never saw that, just saying it could of happened).

deadnewbie
Mon Sep 22, 2003 5:41 pm
#22




Yeah...that's why I quit PvP. A gunman should be able to take down a doctor easy.




No, it seemed like you quit PvP because you suck. I kill doctors regularly.




Imperial Minister of Information
Phuobar
Mon Sep 22, 2003 5:46 pm
#23

Pistoleer random HAM in PvP sucks because we only hit the mind pool 16% of the time. Throw armor on top of that and I rather stay home.
Dyriel
Mon Sep 22, 2003 5:48 pm
#24

what about making doctors healing for 1/4 what they do usually ?

PS : hello DeadNewbie, happy to see homeworks are already over...
deadnewbie
Mon Sep 22, 2003 6:05 pm
#25

Still unable to kill anyone Dyriel? Please note, I'm probably the only pistoleer to not cry about some profession beating me up.



Here's a box of tissues for your tears Dyr.




Imperial Minister of Information
Tahjarra
Mon Sep 22, 2003 8:44 pm
#26

LOLit starts out that the DX2 pistol is worthless and it turns into "Nerf the Docs" I worked my tail off to become a Doctor and it costs me tons ofcredits to make the meds I use.


If ya can't beat em, join em =) Why all this talk about nerfing other professions, with tactics and knowledge you can take out just about anything in this game.

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