Pistoleer Archive

All I am saying is that pistol is the best weapon all around. That is why I switched. I would love to stay with a rifle, but I don't see any balancing between the three main weapon classes anytime soon. I have not made it to master level for wither weapon yet, but one does not need to and still see that there is a significant edge qwith one of the weapons. Also, I didn't come here to flame. I came here to invite all those that feel thioer class is so bad to try another weapon. If you or anyone else here thinks that they can not win a duel against a Rifleman than they probably should change careers.

Also, I am not a troll. I am just as concerned about the issues as the next player, but there are many classes that are far worse off than the Pistoleers.

Pistoleer sucks. How do I know? i'm a master of the profession. What doesn't suck is the pistol. It has a low mind drain and that, by any standard, is the name of the game. If mind was healable the Rifle and Carbine would be much more viable weapons. As it stands you can buff your secondaries in H and A such that you almost feel no drain (a little mind) when spamming your pistol specials. That's the deciding factor in all things, an unhealable pool with two others that are.

So you can talk all you want, but the smuggler and BH are much better off with their specials (smugglers need some pistoleer for accuracy bonuses) than pistoleers are. Its all because the pistol, as the game stands mechanically is superior in HAM drain. Well, M drain and that's the name of the game.

Actually ScoutMeister, the amount of damage that a Master Rifleman can spit out is insane. When I get hit with MindShot2 and MindShot1 from a T21, it's pretty muchguaranteed that I'm incapped.

If a pure Master Pistoleer took on a pure Master Rifleman, the rifleman would win hands down. It's not even close.

I do appreciate you for being mature and leaving our board so we can discuss these issues. Thanks.

ScoutMeister ,

Rifle is hard to PvP until you master. Once you master, however it's pretty insane. I've been hit by flushing shots (actually my friends and I all at the same time), which applies a stun (I think I recall that), and it did about 400-600 PvP damage per hit (to multiple people). That's every second.

Crazy, isn't it? It's the devs fault, they did not plan out balance with numbers, they simply did not. It's just a big exploiting gambit right now, which is cool, most every profession can take advantage of a screwed up game and make the most of it. howver, for the casual player, it's tough.

In the following paragraph I am talking to my fellow pistoleers, to convey a point to you devs.....

Instead of us all whining "nerf the BH's" why not whine "make pistoleers better" pistoleers are the hands down worst marksmen based profession there is. Why? First off it is impossible for us to have good weapons: the best pistol I have seen does about 200 unsliced. Yet I see carbines and rifles that do easily 350 max. Not only this but pistoleer specials suck, doing about 500 max at most and when commandos can easily reach 2000-3000 with a good hit. Heck, I have seen commando weapons that do 2000-4000 unsliced. Now if that aint unfair what is. Rifles I have seen do 700-1000 damage easily with a headshot, and Carbines have the wuss Knockdown that is basically an automatic win in any PVP. Bounty Hunters have lightning cannons that do usually 1500 a basic hit and an eye shot with pistols that is death in 3-6 hits. Creature handlers run around with kilnik queens, unstoppable...as well as gurrecks and rancors. Then there are the imperials with the AT-ST's. DEVS: DO NOT NERF THESE PROFESSIONS, IMPROVE PISTOLEERS DRAMATICALLY. That is all I have to say....

Uh, the title is supposed to preview the content of your post. Otherwise you're just drawing attention to your posts by being deceptive.

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Heh, you guys are funny. I'm only 0/1/4/1 and i can kill pretty much every person in PvP. Only person i can't kill is a master BH. Every other master class is a walk in the park. You people mustn't be very good pvp'ers to think a rifleman/carbineer can take a pistoleer.

The title was quite misleading

the moron that said he was pistoleer and could take carbineers should post how on this thread...

I have seen commando weapons that do 2000-4000 unsliced. Now if that aint unfair what is. Rifles I have seen do 700-1000 damage easily with a headshot, and Carbines have the wuss Knockdown that is basically an automatic win in any PVP. Bounty Hunters have lightning cannons that do usually 1500 a basic hit and an eye shot with pistols that is death in 3-6 hits.
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This is nothing lol, my RL friend is a bounty hunter (not a master yet, but has lightning cannon IV though). Speed on his weapon is 4.x and i've seen him hit for over 13,000 IN ONE SHOT with a special lol

I think what another poster was trying to say is... if a rifleman gets into melee you are as good as dead... no mater how sweet your mind shot is or anything.

Pistoleers are awesome they have the sweet posture chage at lvl 2, LVL freaking 2... you do 400 + dmg with it... it's awesome I love it and you can use a special right afterwords.

Right now what I do a lot is.. health shot 2, go to kneeling for 400 dmg do some body shot's go to standing for 400 dmg couple more body shots go to kneeling and so on.

Also I can dodge right away with my pistol skills and do it about once or twice every fight (looks AWESOME)... I don't ever block with my rifle and carbine doesn't get any cool trick like that.

I love pistol and I'm only a novice at the skill... so I guess you can hate the class and say that it sux.. I don't know I'm only a novice. But, I find it way better then other classes so far as inI find it really fun.

I'm not a mini maxer so doing uber dmg and having uber this and that isn't my game. If I have fun with it, I'll keep the skill if not then I'll drop it in a few days.

So far I've in the game i've had novice chef, the artisan tree 2/4/4/4, marksman 3/4/3/4, novice creature handler 1/1/1/1. Smuggler 0/0/0/4, novice pistoleer, master brawler, teras kasi artist 1/1/1/1, heavy swordsman with 1/0/0/1, novice pikeman, novice fencer,novice musician with 0/0/0/2, scout with 4/3/4/3.

Now I have scout 4/0/4/3, master brawler, novice fencer, novice pikeman, swordsman 1/0/0/1, teras kasi artist 1/1/2/2, marksman 0/4/0/1 and i'm working my way to what i've finally found out i want to do

Master TKA, Master Smuggler, Master Pistoleer

ill agree the eyeshot is far overpowered, however ive gone toe to toe with many master BH and they dont have that much of a hand up on use pistoleers. allbeit the pistoleer SHOULD be the badest mother in the land with a pistol (and good pistols....ones that work....) i can get up to 500 damage in pvp without any power ups. *thats a sliced FWG5 64-251 speed 2.0*

personally i want to see pistoleer specials fixed, eye shot either taken out of the game or given to pistoleers as well, and for the love of god, give us some speed. obviously the pistoleer is a PvP class, we dont make money by being able to fan shot....and our speed/damage is just silly. i guess we could always just wax our other skills and go up the BH pistol tree, but who wants to master scout and marksmen and level 4 BH pistol only to have something like 30 skill pts left.......

any more thoughts?

You must not be facing very good competition. You have a bunch of pistoleer skills that are totally worthless in PvP, so they aren't helping you.

I'm a Master Pistoleer plus a 0-2-4-1 BH and I have trouble against Master Riflemen (and sometimes against other BHs). Another deadly combo is Master Carbineer + BH Carbine ... I have a friend who has that. The Master BH skill box, which you talk about, is worthless for PvP -- only the pistol/carbine/LLC skills matter.