Pistoleer Archive

How do you know the BH spamming stopping shot with his scatter isn't a Master Pistoleer+BH Pistols 4?

[a combo which will beat "Pure" Bounty Hunters]

You guy's havent seen a launcher pistol in action before have you ?

"The only problem is eyeshot, always has been, always will be. If speed is changed so it doesn't stack,"

When you're fighting someone who fires a special every second [Pistol Speed Line + BH Pistol 4] it really makes no difference what special they use..

Stopping shot, Last Ditch, EyeShot or Torso...makes no difference.

oh wait jagen i see what you've done with that reply.

Ignore the fact the original poster was talking about Pistoleer specials and instead focus on the BH special you'd love to see the Devs nerf!

Honestly the true problem is speed itself. The ability to get 100% speed reduction throws the whole balance of the system out of wack.

Cap speed at +80 and you will solve 99% of these types of issues.

its been said before but i will say it again, yes a master bounty hunter should be able to defeat a master pistolleer most of the time (because of all the extra skill points used up). however in order to defeat the master pistoleer the bounty hunter should have to use all of his/her resources which means the llc and carbines.

Speed is an issue, but I my point was that if we get any good fixes for our broken skills it also benifits many BH's. Many other professions would cry insanely if the BH got any stronger. I beleave in diversity for template, but with the current setup one template owns all others in PvP and its BH/Pistoleer. The only other way to solve the problem IMO is to give the other elite professions weapons closer to the BH weapons stats.

Using Pistols only a Master Pistoleer should win everytime over a BH

Using Carbs only a Master Carbineer should win everytime over a BH

Using Rifle only a Master Rifleman should own a BH

However a BH would be crazy to go toe to toe against a Master using the Masters weapon!! The BH would use a different weapon ie. Rifle, carb, llc agaist a Pistoleer etc.

The "MASTERS" of a weapon are the strongest most deadly with that weapon! Not a BH

We are talking single weapon exp. only!!! The "Masters" focused their skill on a single weapon not multiple weapons! Yes the BH should be a very skilled fighter! and should win but not everytime especial if they use the wrong weapon! That is their versatility, they have a choice of weapons and specials, for those weapons in a given situation!

And how the heck can a BH use EYESHOT with a Scatter pistol???????

look people. why are u always out to shut down the bh especially when hes a bh/pistoleer. yeah we are gonna always have the ability to combine stopping shot with bh speed and a scatter pistol. u know why? cause we used up all our skill points to go that route. now quit cryin and send your pets at us or whatever u did with your skill points because frankly we are good cause we chose this route. everyone has their perks. you cant be every profession in the game.

First, if your a BH and havent gone up the investigation tree then you have no room to claim you deserve to be better. The fact that a BH can beat the living crap out of a master pistoleer with a fraction of the raw pistol experience, in fact all of their experience combined and the time put into their character.Two whole skills in a single profession is not > than master pistoleer, but witheyeshot it is. I don't argue that a MASTER bounty hunter should be able to take any one 1v1 in almost all cases but he does that with his diversity of weapons not 4 skill boxes. Don't argue you need master scout or master marksman, the price for your diversity with weapons and unique moves in the high skill cost. The fact remains that pistoleers take 3 times the pistol experience to become fully functional with a pistol and BH's can easily defeat that with about 1/10th of that experience. You chose the to be the most powerful 1v1 so suck up the skill cost but by no means should you be better with a pistol than a master pistoleer nor better with a carbine than a master carbineer. At least not until master bounty hunter. The simple fact that an 0/2/0/0 BH can defeat almost any PvP template is overpowered and you cannot argue that, if you do you are an idiot. As many have said 250 > 217 but with the way things stand 169 > 250 know what that means? you can be the king of pvp and still have 81 skill points to dabble in, enough to master any other profession. Moving eyeshot to master BH would even it out, I wouldnt mind dying to a Master BH. Know how much pistol experience 0/2/0/0 is? 491,000. Know how much master pistoleer is? 3,891,000 guess what? that is greather than 491,000 factor inall your other requirements, it is still a fraction and can defeat a master pistoleer.

There's no such thing as a BH+Pistoleer.

The most powerful Pistol User is a Master Pistoleer [18 skill boxes] + BH Pistols 4 [5 skill boxes]

Now, as the majority profession in combo is Pistoleer why do you all insist on nerfing the BH contribution

"The simple fact that an 0/2/0/0 BH can defeat almost any PvP template is overpowered "

If you're losing to a Novice BH who only has BH Pistols 2...then dude you suck and online games aren't for you go back to Pong.

I could care less about stopping shot and how it relates to BHs, really. It's still better to use eyeshot or torso shot in most every situation, so it's not a big gain for BHs. Fan shot..well, yeah, that makes pistoleer/BH templates even better, but it also makes pistoleer better. It does not make BH better.

Regarding BH/pistoleer being the best pistol user, I disagree. I think it's smuggler/BH/pistoleer (speed). And yes, pistoleer occupies the least amount of "XP" in that template. Annoying and insulting to some, certainly.