Pistoleer Archive

Well... this conversation has gone slowly downhill...

I am also joining the surrendering... however I do it slowly... heading for master Chef and master Fencer now...

I believe it to be way more fun.... and those two protections will not likely be nerfed anytime this century.

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deadnewbie wrote:
I've hit 4500 with stopping shot.

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Not with any weapon a "normal" pistoleer has access to...

Tssr'ct Misso

Double damage versus knockdowned targets.

In my hotbar, my pistol whip button is macroed to automatically cue up stoppingshot immediately afterwards to make the best of the knockdown. I've done over 4k with SS and the FWG5's on Eclipse aren't even that great, so it's quite possible.

As a sidenote, losing our ranged knockdown screws with us even more because in PvP, we practically have nil chance to take advantage of this double damage. How often do you really get to pistol whip anyone in PvP?

these people that are saying they do a **edit**load of dmg are telling the truth... i have seen this for myself also... you can have someone with a new 250-500 dmg 1 sec Launcher Pistol and you'd be doing 6k dmg... with a SS

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Not with any weapon a "normal" pistoleer has access to...

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FWG5, 50-195, 32% damage slice. 32% max damage power up. This brings you to roughly 330 max damage. 4k+ damage is very much possible with a pistol whip/stopping shot combo. I'm waiting until the 330 max damage FWG5 of mine break so I can test out the new 380 max gun (power ups and slice included). I'm hoping to break 5k.

that would be a max hit with someone knocked down right? so in practical terms that never happens or happens so rarely as to be not worth mentioning. you got to look at the AVG hit of stopping shot with that weapon and a opponent standing since a melee kd is basically never going to happen against any competent opponent.( exception being melee profs. in which case if they in melee rangethen you are the one that sucks)

Let's do it the easy way. Let's say max damage is 4000 in PvE with a knocked down target. Since a knocked down target gets 50% more damage, this brings the standing max damage to 2666. 25% of that is 666 damage. I've done that. It's a 2 shot opportunity with or without knock down.

With a FWG5 and it's wide damage variance this is somewhat tricky. With my souped up DX2 it's more likely because the lower end damage of my particular DX2 is around 70 more damage while giving up only 15 or so of the maximum damage.

All I can say is get a good gun.

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DarthPaul2002 wrote:
what are you whining about? you can kill people usuallyin like3 shots if you're a master

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doesn't do us any good when their killing us in one shot man. Look around and see what's happening before posting. You got three professions doing one hit kills in PvP and preatty much soloing mob's that I used to die to in seconds, and soloing those mobs in 3 hit's max. I personally have given up on pistoleer. SOE doesn't have any plan's on fixing us, so why should I bother?

Where on earth are these massive FWG5's coming from? The best common one on my server is 52-201 2.3 speed. Last night a master WS had an auction for ones made with krayt tissue, and I thought I would finally see the 300+ fwg5's I have heard so much about. The best one was 60-233 1.8 speed and went for over 60k. F that. The regular ones are 20k which is way too much.

Is the Radiant economy that hosed?

The 60k price is cheap. I'd only part with my krayt gun for 75k and not a credit less. It's possibly in the top 10 for powerful pistols on Sunrunner.

The thing to keep in mind is that FWG5's need some rare material that shows up now and then. They're not like scouts where you just need fairly common materials to craft.

Your quote BASE stats, they are quoteing starts AFTER Slice and Powerup.

They even said after Slice and Powerup.

If you know what the Master WC are making, you can eaisly figure out wht the best is going ot be. Assume a good slice is 30-35% to both min and max damage and a good powerup should be around 33% max damage 16% min damage. Apply the slice before the powerup and it's jsut a matter of simple math.

Take one of these new Kryat FWG5's that Rodric was selling on radiant last night.

Base Stats

52-233 1.8

Apply a best case 35% Damage Slice.

70-314 1.8

Now Apply 33-16 Powerup

81-417 1.8

One SICK weapon!!

The mainproblem is your not gonna get a 35% slice. If your lucky, 1 outta 3 weapons will slice to 30-33% damage. Rest will either be Speed slice(useless) or garbage 20-25% damage slices. This is with Master Smugglers, use a newbie slicer and you will rarely even break 20% anymore.

This is why when I buy new weapons I like to buy 8-10 at a time, so I know i'll get 3 good guns worth using.

This is why buying 1 Krayt pistol did not enthuse me. Now if your willing to sell me 4-5 of them, sure I'll pay 60-70k each without even thinking about it. Money is cheap, I probubly made 100k last night just running FP missions all night without even trying for high cash payouts.

Good points, gotcha now. I prolly should pick one up, but I just can't afford 7 at a time. How are you making 100k doing faction missons? Is that in like 12 hours?