Pistoleer Archive

The BH pistol and the Pistoleer focused combat character (obviously a char with JUST pistoleer skills would be no where near as powerful as a hybrid of any combat classes) differ in function. The BH pistol is the DoT/finisher weapon. Its main goal is to hit the guy with bleeds and then after the target is weakend by LLC close in for those last 500 or so points of damage you need to the specific pool.

A pistoleer on the other hand should be an amalgum of the 3 BH weapon lines albeit weaker in each field since its spreading out its uses. The pistoleer should be able to apply stuns and intimidates and other states on a character, this would given the the flexibility that a skilled use of a weapon should have(stopping shot/disarm). The pistoleer should be competent atfinishing a target/bleeding them, body shot 3 needs to be reworked to be more useful for those "finishing" times to hit for that last amount of health needed to take down the perp. The pistoleer should be good at inflicting damage quickly, this would translate into things like fan shot or double tap doing random damage but hitting for high amounts and with lower reload times. This should be like the LLC for the bh.

With a pistoleer being able to do these three things they would be truely unchallenged masters of the pistol. A BH or smuggler would not have anywhere near the flexibility nor be as useful with just the pistol as a pistoleer but rather be forced to depend on their other combat skills to make up for not being a complete master of the pistol. Mastering a weapon doesn't mean being the best at everything with it, it means being able to use it effectively in almost any situation.

Pistoleers on paper are better with a pistol then a BH...The problem is the only stats that work are general accuracy and speed.

BH Accuracy=+60

BH speed=+50

Pistol accuracy=+30

Pistol speed=+48

Now what was supposed to illustrate the pistoleer being the all around better gun fighters was..

Pistol accuracy while moving +30 Pistol accuracy while standing +15

In essence the BH on paper is more like a soldier...He knows how to fire his weapon straight and fast. While the pistoleer is more of a gunfighter...He knows how to use his weapon in any given situation, this is also the reason pistoleers get defense bonuses.

The problem....Special accuracies either do not work, or they do not work enough to be noticed. That coupled with the broken defense mods gives the BH all the advantages.

If the devs would fix defense...And fix special accuracy, and frankly fix and rebalance pistol specials...Then I think you would see how pistoleers shine.

In the end I think the main problem is moving the on paper concept of pistoleers to the actual in game reality of them...I am rooting for you guys, I hope the devs are listening.

If A noviceBH could whip a Master rifleman with a rifle

If a Novice BH could whip a Master Carbiner with a carbine

If a Novice BH could whip a Master swordsman with a sword

If a Novice BH could whip a TKA Master hand to hand

Would these Masters of their profession be bitter? Be pissed off ? Scream Nrf or fix me ?

I think so

Thats why pistoleers complain about a Novice BH with a pistol can beat us hands down..But they cant beat any other profession with that profession Mastered weapon ....Thats the problem

And when i mention novice BH i refer to a BH with 4 boxes of pistol in his elite profession

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Sure pistoleer weapons are junk compared to everyone elses weapons now....Its well know our specials the vast majority dont work as intended and some do not work at all

But for a master to be domminated with his own weapon from a novice in another profession is BS

End of whine...anyone got cheese?

Leva Oripa

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Dyriel wrote:
once again : we don't all care about PvP !

One very hypocrit statement BH / Commando and Smugglers (well, mainly BH) made is the "we spent way more skill points then you to become master". Yeah, it is true but it is not complete, those guys are masters in 3 different professions which grant them at least 2 other lines of VERY usefull skills almost any Pistoleer / Carbineer / Rifleman must gather too to be efficient (but it is not required, this is the only difference). There are so many advantages to be Master Scout I can't even numerate them...

but still the old same unanswered question : why should a BH (and on a lesser note, smuggler) be better than a Pistoleer with a Pistol ?


If you find any In-Game or RL explanation, I would admit Pistoleer should be what it is now...but I don't think it is even possible.

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Master Scout is worthless to a Bounty Hunter. Please don't try and talk about ur class until you've tried it. I've been a master Pistoleer...it's changed a lot since then, but I have an idea of what it's like.

Obviously not only pistoler needs love but BHs needs a nerf in pistols.