Pistoleer Archive

cuz it's a RL bullet, it's not worth it...he probably could, just not worth getting shot over..

this is a game...we do lots of things in this game that would be pure stupidity in RL...like going toe-to-toe with a giant cats who in RL would kill you in 1 swipe of a claw...

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Iebo wrote:
Seriously though, they are more powerful than a BH in combat with JUST their base skills and get the points to spread around and take Master CH or Master CM.

Make elite combat professions require near the same skill points as a BH and I will be happy.

A master pistoleer/master CH is WAY overpowered. A master pistoleer/master combat medic is WAY overpowered. Only fix is to raise the skill points or seriously decrease damage output and remove KD completely from the class.

Thank You

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Why would a Master Bounty Hunter be an equal with just a Master Pistoleer? BH are a jack-of-all-trades character. That's reflected in their skill trees and point distibution. They are NOT a fighting class.

Complaining that, in PvP, the BH is not the UBER class because you spent such-and-such skill points,...you picked the WRONG class to play. CH/MP is an uber class for PvP.

Now, you want to roleplay a Bounty Hunter because you remember how bad-azz Boobo Feet was, then by all means, play the BH. Bounty Hunters are jack-of-all trades type character. You get pretty good with Pistols, Carbine, & LLC. You get scout and investigation. Actually, a whole profession as scout. That goes towards NOTHING in PvP, yet you want Pistoleers nerfed. BHs don't win by fire fights. They win by using their smarts and what they have available to them. That's a BH.

Master Pistoleers/Creature Handlers play SWG for one purpose, PvP. Sure, you can try to 'roleplay' that combo in SWG, but seriously, who would you be kidding? That combo is for one thing, PvP pwnage.

You want BH fixed, then lead the march on the BH forums to get more content on the BH mission terminals. If you want to lead your march to PvP pwnage, then complain at the BH board to get Scouting DROPPED and CH picked up in it's stead. Does that make sense? Hell no, but we're no longer talking about roleplay in the game.

You want pwnage in PvP, get with the skill that masters a specific weapon.

Tomasi,

nice try. that argument has been posed already and shot down. BHs kill people, they don't do that by sucking at everything.

if you actually read the thread, I said BHs should be slightly inferior to Pistoleers with pistols. However, there should be tools such as human traps and poisons that trump that.

We are NOT playing rock paper scissors. Sucking at 3 things is not as good as being good at 1. Especially for the budget price of 2.5x as many skill points.

Something has to be done.

Uhmm..pistols kill people. That's what pistol does. A master of the pistol is a master of death. I don't get your arguement.

You say you should be inferior to a Pistoleer, then in the same paragraph you contradict that and say you should be equal. Which is it?

A BH is a master of FINDING someone (hence the scout and investigation). Finding someone, and KILLING someone are 2 entirely different things. How many people did the Booba and Jongo kill in the movies? Oh.. Jongo killed..*laff* another bounty hunter.

Tomasi, your reading comprehension leaves much to be desired

I said that you should be better at pistols...
however, there are lots of ways to kill people

Bounty Hunters should (and probably will eventually) have traps to use on humanoids
Bounty Hunters have the LLC (which when working should be formidable)

the argument about FINDING people is complete BS because I am a sw developer and I have to drive work to do my job....However, I do NOT drive to work for a living, I develop software.

A bounty hunter KILLS/NEUTRALIZES for a living, using lots of tools (some of which are broken and/or not yet implemented)

Tomasi why dont you read the discription of the bounty hunter in the Holocron. While you are at it read pistoleer. BH by SOE's on description are meant to ELIMINATE their targets. Also, why dont you read the top box in our skill trees.

This isnt a real life bounty hunter who tracks and takes their target into custody. This is SOE's BH who is basically an assassin and yes an assassin should be **edit** good in combat.

I don't know about the rest of you but when my class description says I ELIMINATE targets I would expect my given skills to be used to ELIMINATE the target.

Chahu Melhar

Intrepid Bounty Hunter

You know Pistoleers have it nice when some of the things they're asking for are:

1. Twirly Pistol move

2. Holster

3. Dual Pistols

i think what Iebo is saying is that he wants to be Boba Fett. most bounty hunters were only good at just that. Hunting people down and arresting them/killing them. doesn't make them gods of combat exactly now does it? They probably have more people skills than weapons skills.

Tomasi dont put words in my mouth. No where in my post did I say Bounty Hunters should be PvP gods or be able to one shot kill anyone.

My post was merely a response to this drivel posted by you.

"A BH is a master of FINDING someone (hence the scout and investigation). Finding someone, and KILLING someone are 2 entirely different things. How many people did the Booba and Jongo kill in the movies? Oh.. Jongo killed..*laff* another bounty hunter."

Seems to me SOE intended us to be good at both FINDING and KILLING. In my book ELIMINATING = KILLING.

Chahu Melhar

Intrepid Bounty Hunter

Chahu. NO ONE IS STOPPING YOU FROM KILLING ANYONE BUT YOURSELF! It does not take a 'Bounty Hunter' to easily kill someone. I'm a novice smuggler with some pistoleer, and I kill. I 'eliminiate' my target. Sothat makes a Bounty Hunter now? Wow, and I didn't use half my points for scout.

What you are asking is that your job made easier just because you hold some bounty hunter title. Well I got news for you, it ain'ta free ride once you get master bounter hunter.

Think just because I might eventually gain Master Pistoleer that I just waltz up to a Krayt Dragon solo, and kill it because I'm such a bad-azz with a pistol? Because I got over 2 bajillion points in PvE? Trust me, sending a /bug report that a Krayt Dragon killed me isn't gonna fly.

So help me understand what you are saying. You don't want to be a PvP god, fine. Yet you want to 'eliminate' your target. Well, help me understand. What is stopping you. Tell me why my Novice Smuggler is having a good time killing Master Pistoleers when I get the drop on them. Sorry if I don't read the BH boards everyday.

Are you clueless Tomasi?!? Read my freaking post. I am directly responding to your idiotic post that stated we were only meant to track our targets not kill them. Drop back one page of post and reread YOUR statements.

If you meant that post to be in jest I appologize for misinterpreting you. But by your words it seems to me you only think we should be good at tracking our targets. I am trying to demonstrate to you by SOE's class description that we are supposed to do a whole lot more then finding them.

Please show me where in my post I said I wanted a free ride if/when I make master bounty hunter. All I want is for you to understand that my class isntjust a tracker. We are cold, ruthless killers as well and we should be **edit** good at ourjob.

Chahu Melhar

Intrepid Bounty Hunter

Better yet, how about your current post:

" We are cold, ruthless killers as well and we should be **edit** good at ourjob."

Uhmm... no one is stopping you. I'm a cold ruthless killer as a novice smuggler. I'm not saying BHs should JUST be good at tracking, that's only HALF their skill points.

From my understanding, you want SOE to automatically make you "good" at your job of killing. Wrong, you make yourself good at your job at killing. Simple.

So tell me, what is it that is making your job tough? Hey, I'm open to hear what you got. All YOU keep saying is that SOE should make you good at your job. Well?

i guess all the master pistoleers/carbineers/rifleman got all their exp from shooting cans on the fence

them cold ruthless bh's got all exp from killing djm's

fear the bh's