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Thread: Be very careful, Fanshot is broken

IdunoUduno
Thu Oct 09, 2003 12:10 pm
#1

Ok, fanshot was changed to be an AE... sort of. If you watch your combat spam, and you shoot at a group of mobs/NPC's, it will say you've hit them all for varying amount of damage (like an AE should do). HOWEVER, the damage that is supposedly done to the mobs in the AE but that are not targetted do not actually take any damage, they just get agro'd.


I tested this several times and here's an example of what I found. A gubbur and a durni are right next to each other. I fanshot the durni and watch my combat spam. It shows I've done 789 damage to the durni and the durni dies. It also shows that I've done 1400+ damage to the gubbur but the gubbur is unharmed (full HAM bars) and is now agro'd on me.


I did this test about 6-8 times with unvarying results. It is always only the targetted creature that takes any damage. I'd suggest being very careful about this in areas where hitting an extra mob will make you're life difficult.




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Burnz3
Thu Oct 09, 2003 12:17 pm
#2

I tested this on a Large Imperial Base and he's right, Instead of all focusing on my pet as soonm as I fired they all stopped and started attacking me ignoring my pet.



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Alysenne
Thu Oct 09, 2003 12:34 pm
#3

Unbelievable. The cone on disarmingshot2 was (and probably still is) broken in exactly the same way after the patch that removed its knockdown. The primary target actually takes the listed damage, but everything else just gets annoyed. So before even fixing the cone area attack, they decided to make Fan Shot into a broken cone attack, which actually lowers the usefulness of pistoleers' bread and butter attack. Good job, developers!

The internal testers probably tested the 'new and improved' Fan Shot a few times, looked only at the combat spam, and checked it off as fixed while being too dumb to realize that its very broken.



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Powsaut
Thu Oct 09, 2003 12:52 pm
#4

I don't know what to say?


Oh, how about this:


WHY US??!!

milltech
Thu Oct 09, 2003 4:30 pm
#5

You must be kidding right? No you sound pretty serious. Well it looks like im going back to crafting for awhile until this mess gets straightened out..



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BlitzDegal
Thu Oct 09, 2003 4:43 pm
#6

Internal testers? We ARE the internal testers....
deadnewbie
Thu Oct 09, 2003 5:15 pm
#7

I love the new fan shot.



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HarlequinGrins
Thu Oct 09, 2003 5:19 pm
#8

Well, I am not sure what to say...it worked fine for me...maybe it is because the critters I was shooting at were all the same specie? I am not sure, but it is a possibility....hmmmmmmm.....................



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Noules000
Thu Oct 09, 2003 5:21 pm
#9

There's a known and old bug with AE cone attacks: only targets in combat (the little combat icon on the targeting screen) or your active target takes damage from the AE attack (they all receive any status effects, if any). Once the mobs are in combat mode, the AE should work.
darkranger007
Thu Oct 09, 2003 5:24 pm
#10

NO ITS GREAT!!! I am now doing the same damage i was doing only to multiple targets at the same time. I took out 3 rebel npc's at the same time today. One was a yellow con one a white con and one a blue con. I didnt know it was going on and was about to run because my mind was low when all of a sudden i get a message that i had gained faction and couldnt lose anymore faction and all that good stuff. I had only been targeting the general. Haha i killed 3 birds with one stone. Its great. But now that i think about it that might be why that picket attacked me when i was fighting some rebels too hehe. SO BE CAREFUL WHEN USING IT!!! But it is not broken it is great.



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Darsyk
Thu Oct 09, 2003 7:46 pm
#11

Noules is right. Try using a pet to make all the creatures engage comabt mode with it. THen fire your AOE shot and it should hit all targets for actual damage. I havent used Fanshot. Just using my rifleman AOE experience, and that seems to be the only way to get them to work. Targets must be in combat mode.

TheSkankinSpiv
Thu Oct 09, 2003 9:15 pm
#12

Allright, so all this thing does is make is plenty more strong against things that aggro and plenty more weak against things that dont. Did I mention you pretty much have to have a pet or your poor ranged self is going be a splat on lok? mmmm.



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TheSkankinSpiv
Thu Oct 09, 2003 9:16 pm
#13

(on a side note, that is all if you are soloing)



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