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Thread: don't be masterbhhaters

tatumz-ahazi
Mon Sep 22, 2003 6:30 pm
#1

hello since they will be moving eyeshot to master bh it wont be overpowered anymore. also it would be good if they made it so the accuracy and speed bonuses from different high classes do not stack. this would even out the classes more i think and you would notice pistoleers that have bh pistol also not being as overpowered.
Philosopher1976
Mon Sep 22, 2003 6:34 pm
#2

I think everyone on the Pistoleer board agrees with this. We don't hate Bounty Hunters, and we think the modifiers shouldn't stack.





Samra Hael
Master Pistoleer • Expert Bounty Hunter
KOTOR • Scylla


EasyMcRhinopants
Mon Sep 22, 2003 6:36 pm
#3

Eyeshot will be just as powerful no matter where it falls in the skill tree.


However, if it requires master BH, then only like 4 people on each server would be able to use it.

Dinian
Mon Sep 22, 2003 6:37 pm
#4

Masterbhhaters...





Dinian :: Master Swordsman - Teräs Käsi Master - Force Adept
Retired producer of fine weapons for Kong Technologies
WookFu
Mon Sep 22, 2003 6:54 pm
#5

stacking in skill tress offers diversity and choice.
HighRoller3K
Mon Sep 22, 2003 7:22 pm
#6

Well I think that if Pistol mods can stack, so should the Carbine mods, and LLC made into type "rifle" so they can stack too. Should be fair for all the "eer" combat classes. It should be all or none.



Annomander Rake...
(SCYLLA)
Darsyk
Mon Sep 22, 2003 7:24 pm
#7

Ahah that explains it. thats why pistoleers and carbineers get stacking mods. i better go start a petition to turn rifleman into rifleers so we get stacking mods

HighRoller3K
Mon Sep 22, 2003 7:32 pm
#8

heh, pwned



Annomander Rake...
(SCYLLA)
Darsyk
Mon Sep 22, 2003 7:53 pm
#9

Yah i know what you mean. But if i could stack my rifle mods with llc i would become god and you would have to worship me....well i guess you could just renerf me. An LLC would be insanely accurate with rifleman mods. So i would think i need to nerf myself.


That is the exact problem ith BHs. A BH/Pistoleer can outsnipe a rifleman at 60m with better dps dealing mind dmg. Not to mention ill probably take out bout 300 of my own mind trying to hit the bounty hunter. The skill mods cant stack unless pistoleers and bounty hunter mods are nerfed so that pistoleers and bounty hunters mods are low enough that stacked they arent quite gods. maybe just demi gods when stacked. But then anyone who doesnt want to spend all their skill points will be weak. The only way to be a good pistoleer shouldnt be to be an expert bounty hunter. The mods have to be changed so they dont stack.


By the way though if they would like to compensate rifleman with the llc skills stacking because of our lack of speed I wont complain about the speed reduction


Philosopher1976
Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:52 am
#10

I hear you ... I agree with your sense of what the problem is, just disagree about the solution.


My solution is:


1) make it so BH and Pistoleer and Carbineer mods don't stack. So you have "BH Pistol speed" and "Pistoleer pistol speed" so they can't combine.


2) make the other three professions more balanced in comparison to BH. That doesn't mean to make BH lame, it just means that the other professions should be able to come up with a 250-point template that _doesn't_ include BH that is comparable to what a BH dabbler has.






Samra Hael
Master Pistoleer • Expert Bounty Hunter
KOTOR • Scylla


Dyriel
Tue Sep 23, 2003 4:41 am
#11



WookFu wrote:
stacking in skill tress offers diversity and choice.





Once agin WookFu, we are talking about modifiers, not skills in the hard term. Modifiers shouldn't stack, we explained it many times, I myself replied to one of your comment on Pistoleer boards to show you with numbers why it shouldn't stack.

If huge mods are moved to High End tree, it could work. But if Speed mods are at Master lvl in BH Tree and Pistoleers ones don't change, the problem will still be there, the only difference would be to have many Master BH with Pistoleer line 4. Or to cap it.

Btw, we really don't care you THINK someone learning basis of 3 professions should be better in the main sector of a Master in an Elite profession.


If you still think so, you'll have serious problems to deal with in RL.
Aynn
Wed Sep 24, 2003 10:43 am
#12

Its funny how the BH pistol special, eyeshot is better than ANY pistoleer skill special including master pistoleer specials, guess BH can use pistols better (pvp wise)



-Expect the Unexpected.
vGeist
Wed Sep 24, 2003 2:54 pm
#13

I couldn't care less about bh's. I think it's cool they're moving the good eye shot to master, I'd think anybody that's a master bh would think that was cool too. Only thing that irks me is "Bounty Hunters should be able to kill everybody blah blah blah 217 skill points blah blah blah Boba Fett is kewl blah blah blah". If they let combat get too far out of balance it just ruins the game. It would be GOOD to have a wide diversity of fighting professions that can give each other a hard time.
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