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Thread: Pistoleers are weak

Greenyman
Wed Oct 15, 2003 4:51 am
#1

Pistoleers are extremly weak in duels.


No ranged knockdown , no good shots (fan shot was fast , now its dead after the patch).



Pistoleers cant win a duel against a Carbineer , wy ? Because the Carbineer can always use his knockdown and run away.


At the moment its not fun to be a Master Gunfighter , BH have better Pistol AND better skills and better shots.



The Pistoleer needs a ranged knockdown (something within 25-30m) and the disarming shot is a joke , i dont want to damage the weapon of my friends or anyone else , wy should i ???



There need to be some changes and balancing soon.


cue-ball
Wed Oct 15, 2003 4:58 am
#2

if you want kd just get lowblow. and i own carbineers all day on my serverand i am just master pistoleer well soon to be smuggler too. just think about it you hit lowblow then spam last ditch with pistoleer speed and accuracy. i think master pistoleer smuggler pistol line master marksman with a good say 1.5 speed high damage pistol would own anyone. to beat a carbineer just charge the going left and right like you do a rifleman and the will miss about as much as a rifleman





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deadnewbie
Wed Oct 15, 2003 5:01 am
#3

Knockdown is not the key to winning PvP fights. It used to be the key.


I can beat almost any opponents without needing to use knockdown.




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Greenyman
Wed Oct 15, 2003 5:21 am
#4

What i mean is the Pistoleer should get a knockdown , like the Carbineer and ALL other fighing classes.



The Pistoleer is the only weaponproffesion without a knockdown , TKAs also have one and dont have to pick another skilltree.



I dont want to be a smuggler only for these shots and learn brawler ....



And something else :



The BH should getmost of thePistol Speed and accuas a Master , this way the Super Hybrid Pistoleer BHs woundt exist.

Greenyman
Wed Oct 15, 2003 5:22 am
#5

Sorry i ment ranged knockdown for the weapon classes.
deadnewbie
Wed Oct 15, 2003 5:31 am
#6

If you knew combat well you wouldn't ask for a knock down but rather a 10 sec delay move. Knock down is a 5 sec delay move. A full blown 10 sec delay is practically an I Win button.



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Blankgrun
Wed Oct 15, 2003 8:50 am
#7

Uhm, Rifleman don't get them either.


The thing that bothers me is this: Why do you complain about your class by comparing them to the hybrids? The hybrid classes are supposed to be better, its more time consuming and costly of a class to get.


Rifleman complain about pistoleers because of their DPS, Pistoleers complain about Carbineers, and I'll bet that carbineers complain about Rifleman...


Sounds like a good cycle if you ask me...

Laeren
Wed Oct 15, 2003 9:01 am
#8






Blankgrun wrote:

Uhm, Rifleman don't get them either.


The thing that bothers me is this: Why do you complain about your class by comparing them to the hybrids? The hybrid classes are supposed to be better, its more time consuming and costly of a class to get.


Rifleman complain about pistoleers because of their DPS, Pistoleers complain about Carbineers, and I'll bet that carbineers complain about Rifleman...


Sounds like a good cycle if you ask me...



Don't Riflemen get a ranged Dizzy though (Flushing Shot 2)?




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rodorion
Wed Oct 15, 2003 9:55 am
#9

on a slightly different note, why do bh's get +50 pistol speed/accuracy for 1 line costing 1.25 mil pistol xp, but pistoleers only get one speed line that requires COMBAT xp and is only +6 at each box while smugglers have to get 1.9 mil pistol xp and get no mods. And if anyone says its because bh's require more skill points im going to come to your house and kick you in the nuts.



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Dejocko
Wed Oct 15, 2003 10:08 am
#10



rodorion wrote:
And if anyone says its because bh's require more skill points im going to come to your house and kick you in the nuts.




its because bh's require more skill points


bring it



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ArtmeraXenova
Wed Oct 15, 2003 10:15 am
#11

I think i starting to understand....


Pistoleer can get Master Pistoleer And Good Doctor Buff skill if they wish....that would make a pistoleer be able to ahve around 3k of each ham...1 k in secondary stats....and they could use all those Special move pretty much every time...and still have all there armor on them...


While


Bouynthy Hunter would ony have maybe 900 in main stats 100 in secoundary (so special move cost a lot) but they do more damage using weapon



Is anyone have test that a Pistoleer-Doctor VS a B Hunter-medic to see who would win both of them staying at like 20m and using there best special??

ArtmeraXenova
Wed Oct 15, 2003 10:16 am
#12

ho im a novice BHunther who think to drop BH for pistol but i really do not know
koas
Wed Oct 15, 2003 10:17 am
#13

Greenyman,


Mastering pistoleer IMO does't offer much except a title.


Don't get mad because you choose to master it and others chose to select certain trees that will benifit thier characters.


Have you ever tried carine weapons, the ham cost are thru the roof, same with rifles where as pistoleers can spam what ever they want with minimal ham cost.


Piostoleer does suck, thats why I dropped most of it.



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