Pistoleer Archive

I would really like to see some code that prevented Bh's from using pistoleer specials with bounty hunter pistols. It would be very easy to install. It is the answer we need. I read from a Dev post somewhere that the problem with any fixes or advances for the pistoleer profession would be that a large number of BH's would benifit too. Now BHcould still take speed mods and accuracy and use Fanshot/Stoppingshot with a FWG5 or DX2, but would not be able to preform a stoppingshot with a scatter pistol. I know that any BH that reads this is gonna wet his 12 year old undies, but I really don't care. Fellow pistollers, please tell me what you think.

--Sadeth Starcloud-- --Shadowfire--

--Master Gunfighter--

Well.. I see your point, and it's not a bad suggestion as just saying nerf BH's spamming stopping eye shot.

But on the other hand, I'll have to disagree.. I know alot use the same skill setup and all.. but it would ruin the diversity..

Bounty hunters get more pistol speed than pistoleers, and a better pistol than pistoleers. Then they'll post here how they got some insane amount of damage with stopping shot which proves pistoleers are powerful yadda yadda. That bugs me. I guess they're stupid enough they don't realize scatters are better than pistoleer guns (although stup looking).

Once the speed cap is 'rebalanced' and the pistoleer attacks are fixed, especially the master attacks, this issue won't be so bad. Does it bother me that a BH/pistoleer far outguns me right now? Yes, of course. It's silly just how weak my damage output is in comparison. But this is largely a problem due to the screwed up speed calculations at high levels (and to a less degree, the fact that the DX2 is weaker than the scatter).

I am Master Pistoleer who dabbled in BH 0020 to get Scatter + mods and skills. Yes I know, I should be ashamed but in another hand, I surrended Master CH to get it.

What you are stating is that we should prevent BH to get best skills from both Pistoleer and BH but they still can't get many other skills while Pistoleer can. If nothing can stack, why exactly someone will go to BH ? Their only way to be viable would be BH°Medic or BH+Rifleman (because what you said can be true with Carbines too).

The problem isn't the Scatter by itself (SR Combat can be as good but lesser range), it is the speed mods and the DX2.

The only thing that shouldn't stack is the mods (accuracy and speed) but cert and moves are legit.

I disagree.

I think accuracy isn't a big deal for carbine/rifle/pistol at mastery anyway, and rifles having +90 speed (and can get master marks +95 and hit cap easily), given the huge skill point investment itisn't a big deal. Carbines and pistols have to spend 232 points just to reach their speed cap (without a 1-1.2 weapon...lets' be realistic), rifles spend 92.

The only problem is eyeshot, always has been, always will be. If speed is changed so it doesn't stack, but speed is also revised so weapons dont hit that DUMBAS$$ cap, and eyeshot becomes less important, no one will bother with pistoleer/BH, and I think everyone would be happier as a result.

But removing speed stacking just hursts us relatively speaking...they'd have to fix speed first to avoid making it damaging to high-end PvP IMO.

hmmm, bounty hunters that hit with last ditch are even stronger aren't they? i think speed should stack, defenses too, but i wouldn't mind seeing some changes that didn't make one template the only way to go, ie; having to have bh in your template to use a pistol.

Being a BH, I think we should have a few added bonuses.

Let's consider to become a master pistoleer you need to spend 92 Skill Points.

To become a Master BH we need to spend 217 skill points.

I think it is only fair that BH's get additional bonuses. On the negative though, we gain in additional attacks, but lose on defenses. I think they are fairly balanced as is.

Funny, BH's dont buy anything VIA Combat XP, until they have to grind up our Combat XP tier.... they should shuttup.

Yyven, Overly humbled Squad Leader and Pistoleer

And the Marksmen Tier doesn't matter, EVERYONE Does that, and does it quickly.... Marksman is nota difficult thing to master.

I will trade combat XP over investigation Xp any day of the week

Give mea needle and a quill so I can sign this in blood.I think that BH's are waaaay to powerful, plus the fact that it seems that about 98% of all BH's don't even play the part. Bounty Hunters are just that...'Hunters'. Their like independant contracters...their just looking for a way to make credits doing what they do best...hunt. But players in-game do nothing of the sort...I wish the devs would place some sort of new direction and purpose for the BH profession to focus on hunting for credits BUT instead it seems like every 10 year old with a itchy trigger finger went to BH just so they can blast anything and everyone in sight just because they can, because the BH pistol tree is just ridiculously powerful.

I hope the devs move 'Eyeshot' to Master BH so everyone would stop getting JUST that tree to be uber with a pistol....WE are PISTOLEERS for crying out loud...we should smoke every other profession that has pistol in it. You never say Boba or Jango walking around cantinas or camping outside a factional base just to cap anything that walks out just for laughs...its just silly. I was VERY disappointed when I say pistoleers recieved NO attention whatsoever from the new patch. We should be a uber profession and here we are, I've seen master pistoleers getting smoked by Expert BH's (pistol tree) That should say something.

I think that pistoleers should get more attention...and get the DX2 fixed for goodness sakes. This profession is HARD to master...finding the time and best place for decent XP is crazy.

sigh...BHs are powerful only when they combine 1 line in BH with some other Specialized Marksman skills (pistoleer, carbinier...)

What is a BH going to do when he only has BH pistol skills? (torso shot? (this does about as much dmg as BDS3)....there's nothing in the BH pistol line that gives anything close to Stopping or the new Fan shot.

I think most people are complaining about BH/Pistoleer Hybrids....well hell they should be powerful cause they took the time and skill points to get there.