Pistoleer Archive

actually spamming stopping shot can often incap a target quicker than eyeshot. I usually do 200 with eye shot which will take 4 shots to kill most people but stopping shot can hit 400-500 in pvp so even though its random Ham it can kill in 4 shots even if 1 of them hits action or mind. You might get a bad distribution of ham with maybe 2 health, 1 action and 1 mind, this actually happens quite often but if bodyshot3 were working as it should we could easily kill in 3 shots and I dont care what anyone says about hitting healable dmg because in pvp most people wont be healing when you hit 3 shots in 3 seconds, majority of the time they are going down.

Because of the eyeshot, the game is becoming Star Wars Bounty Hunter.

I rarely engage in PvP simply because with two boxes to master gunfighter i can't win even against a novice bounty hunter with the first pistol box.

They attack the only unhealable action pool while you can't. Riflemen can, but with considerable cost to action pool and at the appropriate range. In close combat I have taken down masterriflemen, but at range they take me down. Fine, but when you can spam a shot every one second that hits the mind pool for incredible damage guess what,game over, no amount oftactics strategizing will change that. One key is winning the game for BHs, and that takes all the fun out of a fight.Spamming one key is so cool. I played a game like that in 1981 that had one button - Asteroids.

Most bounty hunters don't realize that the goal is to have balance whereby a master gunfighter should be best with pistols, a master carbineer best with carbines, and a master rifle best with rifles. The advantage of the Bounty Hunter in PvP is their ability to deal damage at any range to adapt to the person they're fighting. They think, hey, I have a cool exploit no one else can compete with, and that makes me awesome.

Well, that's true, but since the situation is you're not a master gunfighter unless you have eyeshot, I'm sure they'll be happy when the entire game is filled with Bounty Hunters.

Personally, since Ranger was nerfed by cutting my harvests in half, destroying my career in hunting and harvesting, there is nothing keeping me from finishing master gunfighter, getting 40k combat xp and grabbing bounty hunter and eyeshot.

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I think it takes 2 boxes of Pistol to get eye shot not one.

BarneyIX BH

im a master pistoleer / master smuggler on ahazi and i kill dabblers/bh eyeshotters all the time. i really think this is a non topic. remember that bh's use a lot more skillpoints to get to the top then we do, and realize that eyeshot isnt likely to be changed. work around the problem. also realize that many of our specials are broken or not working properly, so we cant really judge ourselves right now against bounty hunters.

Tell you all a little tip buy Moun Gold. For thos that dont know it is a mind spice. Accept the duel and the first thing is hit the mind spice Moun Gold and you will force him to change his tactis, I have only lost one PvP to a BH and that was befor the KD nerf. So there you have it MG for you mind stats and it will give more than a fighting chance. And since I am almost a master Smuggler I never go anywhere with out at least one hit of NP and MG on me.

True, Roy, I try to tell myself that and usually I'm optimistic. But last week, twice in a row, ran into a guy and this is what the combat window read after I cloned:

- you are blinded -

eyeshot

eyeshot

eyeshot

you have been slain by X.

I've won a few gunfights with bounty hunters, so there is hope, but it's darn rare. But I think half the problem lies from the dev posts that said mind pool shouldn't determine battles, but there are still eyeshots that take you out hard.

Just once, though, I would like to see a Bounty Hunter using something other than a scatter pistol in PvP.

Maybe the fact that they're not using all three shows that there are problems with their profession too.

But considering the rest of the game, they're probably going to be nerfed instead of fixed.

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So you pop the spice that gives you 1000 mind out 1500

he shots with eye shot 3 or 4 times your dead still

You guys got easy wait till most bounty hunters have Kyrt Dragon enhanced pistols there is a BH/pistoler in my guild who wanted to test his damage. He used stopping shot with a 100 to 310 1.2 speedscatter (stats slightly out but was crazyly unbalanced) he incaped in 4 shots in time i had to get 1 shot off on my 4.2 second jawa ion rifle with 3 boxs in rifleman speed bracket.

I would lasted longer pre 75% damage reduction meleeing a swordman with a laser rifle

youlosers, complaining about how strong and epic eye shot is, are pathetic.

eye shot is not that strong, it does 200-250 damage PvP. i dont even use it for pvp anymore. if you put a **edit** helmet onyou will onlytake like 125-150. and ifyou have a decent amount of mind (which you should ifyou are PvP'n in the first place) it'll take a good 7 hits before yourare flopped
*as for Draxous' little 1500 mind in 4 hits theory, what a load of **edit**.

if anything you should be fearing the torso shot, it does around double the damage and engulfs you in flames and gives you about 400-500 health wound damage.



Pandoria
BH 3444

Its just sad, i am a master pistoleer and the only working shot i have right now is fan shot, where does it get me? no where, if i fight a novice bounty hunter with eye shot and or bleedshot, he takes me down in 6-hits, and there isnt anything i can do about it except run like a little sissy then i finally bleed to my inc. i believe that every weapon has at least one mind shot, why does pistols mind shot go in bounty hunter?Changebleed shot to action pool bleed and give pistoleers a mind shot and ill be happy, no one should have a mind bleed. Am i the only one here who thinks we should get at least a mind shot to compete with other professons?

I use eyeshot all the time, and I have both eyeshot and torsoshot. Eyeshot is unhealable, plus it causes -blind-, which is great. Torsoshot used to be awesome before the 75% PvP nerf, but now the fire doesn't do all that much. I only use it when the target has a low health bar or a long mind bar.

I do think all the cries to nerf eyeshot are premature. Holo said they'll make mind healable. Then at that point eyeshot will just be situational ... you'll only use it if the other guy has a short mind bar, aside from using it forthe -blind- state effect.

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Joril Tyden

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Philosopher1976 wrote:

I use eyeshot all the time, and I have both eyeshot and torsoshot. Eyeshot is unhealable, plus it causes -blind-, which is great. Torsoshot used to be awesome before the 75% PvP nerf, but now the fire doesn't do all that much. I only use it when the target has a low health bar or a long mind bar.

I do think all the cries to nerf eyeshot are premature. Holo said they'll make mind healable. Then at that point eyeshot will just be situational ... you'll only use it if the other guy has a short mind bar, aside from using it forthe -blind- state effect.

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Where did Holo say Mind was going to be healable?

Thanks,

Naug

Master TKA / Master Ranger / Master Scout (former Master CH) - Valcyn

If you think a BH is fast in PvP, go fight a commando with a Flamethrower....scary.

This all goes back to the same argument, why are BH's better with a pistol than a Master Pistoleer?

Dev team needs to really take a long hard stare at the mods in both and realize that a BH is a jack of all and a Pistoleer SHOULD be a master of one. Until this is changed there can be no balance.

I chose pistoleer because I wanted to be the best with a pistol. Guess I should have gone BH, which I really am not interested in. Funny thing is, most of the BH I know almost NEVER take BH missions, they just have the profession for the weapon skills. Doesn't this seem strange to anyone else (especially those with red names??)

Cim Taurus

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