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Thread: If you have been owned by a BH lookie here...

Dashiva7
Thu Sep 11, 2003 4:42 pm
#1

So how many times have you been happily pvping and a BH comes and kills you and all your buddies with the dreaded eye shot? Cant buff your mind, cant heal it and cant protect it cause those professions that can target it have ar1 weapons that ignore your armor. Sucks....


Well how about we ask for helmets that are ar2 and ar3. Mind is a terrbile thing to waste.


Typically helmets are tougher than body armor anyway. If they wont let us heal mind....or buff mind...how about some protection?????/


Dashai


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CthulhuWWCD
Thu Sep 11, 2003 10:58 pm
#2

This is one of the more reasonable suggestions regarding this issue I have read. It makes sence, at least in theory.


Bleda
Thu Sep 11, 2003 11:15 pm
#3

Dancers/musicians can buff mind, this also stacks with spice buffs. There is AR2 available, use armor and a deflector shield they will = out to be AR2.
roymitchel1
Thu Sep 11, 2003 11:20 pm
#4

shield is vulnerable to acid damage which is what a scatter does so yea...



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Bleda
Thu Sep 11, 2003 11:26 pm
#5

And if someone stat migrates they can have about 900 in each main pool+500 from spice, +500 from musician for almost 2K of mind, it would take 20 eyeshots to kill that much mind. The BH would kill himself about 3 times before he kills someone with 2K of mind.

Moutro
Fri Sep 12, 2003 3:44 am
#6

Hey i got 1300 mind plus 500 from food and another 600 or so from spice and wear compesite helm 50% effectivnees in all and Doc'Holiday a master pistoler with BH speced eyeshot drops me with 300 + per shot at something like 2 sec firring rate per shot


I dont even see him breakin a sweat when he does that



and eyeshot only targets the head as thats the only resists of its damage that i have seen, out of a 300 shot im lucky to resist like 80 at 35% of the time other times its like 40 30 even 20 which makes me laugh as a master armorsmith


Armor Rating is broken my main is master armorsmith and i run heaps of tests so dont think if you wear a full suit and an MK3 is gonna save ya


Holo has stated that the mindpool is not what is ment to deterimine win or loose factor of pvp


so lets hope some real change comes in the works im part pistoler master medic and i also want to see the pistoler styles work .


As for the BH been so powerfull without the eyeshot they got nothin that other 3rd tier profesions cant handel in combat 1 style 8 sec kill evenagainst characters with the greatest minds, no Profesion should be have that much advantage.

Dyriel
Fri Sep 12, 2003 5:20 am
#7

Just don't PvP, it is broken as hell.
Bashiki
Fri Sep 12, 2003 5:34 am
#8

munion gold i think buffs your mind to about 2k



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Tydive
Fri Sep 12, 2003 10:17 am
#9

Muon Gold


Mind: +500 for 600s


Focus: +500 for 600s


Willpower: +500 for 600s




Paidhi Al'Thor
Master Smuggler of Dark Sovereignty
Aerius
Fri Sep 12, 2003 11:28 am
#10

I agree, if mind is your concern, pop some muon and a Angerian Fishak Suprise for another +450 or so and you have like 2000 mind.






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Riam
Fri Sep 12, 2003 11:54 am
#11

Just so you know, the mind pool thing bothers BH's also. (at least it dos me) Here is my suggestion for fixing this.


Here is an easy fix for the mind damage issue, don't tie Mind damage to death. Just restrict use of special moves if you don't have the mind pool points available for it.


The devs have said that Mind Damage was not intended be be a combat issue. Originally, medics could heal Mind damage. The problem was that when medics could heal it, they could infinately heal others. When their Mind pool got low from healing, they would drop a mind heal on themselves and continue healing others damage. This is why they restricted mind healing to entertainers only. Of course this leaves Mind as the only pool that can't be healed in combat and, by extension, Mind damage the most valuable type to apply in combat.


The only down side to this is that if you can't be killed because of Mind damage the riflemen will be left without a special move that can kill an opponent. To fix this, the devs will need to give riflemen a special that targets a different pool. This shouldn't be too hard to do, just give them a body shot or leg shot type of attack to go along with the Head Shots. This will make them very valuable in group combat as they can target the medics and deplete their mind pools so they can't heal others, once that is done they can start targeting the other combatants. Take out the healers =Victory.


Personally, I don't think that spamming any move is a valid way to win PvP combat. If you can't think beyond the Flavor of the Day attack, change professions.


Sandsifter
Fri Sep 12, 2003 10:37 pm
#12

I agree 100%. I just got blasted to the ground tonight in anchorhead before I even knew what hit me. COMPLETELY ridiculous that any profession including BH should be able to incap me in one hit being a pistoleer with 4 skills. I should be able to last longer than that. Im tired of feeling like a wuss compared to BH and Commando. I'd go their route but 1. Im also an armorsmith so I dont have the necessary skill points to do it and 2. Im afraidif I do switch the devs will do a commando style fix and pistoleer will rule. Is that a pipedream or will we always suck ? I cant see how we can improve unless devs come out with a better pistol.
Elzaa
Fri Sep 12, 2003 11:10 pm
#13

i was owned by a BH when i was xping.. a friendly BH.. we were xping together.. I was seeing him hitting for 6-10k regularly rofl (this is with LLC not scatter pistol).. i have screenshots too but i guess this is just common knowledge and something we'll have to accept



Elza (Bloodfin)
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