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Thread: Perhaps our war with the BH is coming to a close

DFalcon999
Sat Sep 20, 2003 2:41 pm
#1

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=bounty_hunter&message.id=56634&view=by_date_ascending&page=1

Look how childish their correspondent is. He's one who led the Elitist 50% of the BH community into thinking they should be Gods. Now that he's just a rambling fool, maybe we can finally reach an understanding with BH.
vGeist
Sat Sep 20, 2003 3:02 pm
#2

There never was a war, except in the heads of some imbecile individual players. I've seen enough quotes from the game designers to know they don't intend for there to be a gross imbalance in combat. Think about it. If one profession is vastly superior, they alienate the rest and a majority of their customers. The belligerent, elitist type bh's are never going to get what they want, which is basically the equivalent of playing a game using cheat codes so they can't lose.
Philosopher1976
Sat Sep 20, 2003 5:05 pm
#3

I was never at "war" with anyone. I think the idea that Pistoleers don't like BHs is silly. I don't dislike BHs at all.


The #1 priority for Pistoleers should be fixing our profession, not worrying about someone else's.






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Hajebi
Sat Sep 20, 2003 7:44 pm
#4

Thats the worst thing ive seen yet. As for your other comments about him i dont think you have a clue. He never asked for more power than we are required to do our missions. Hes beeing trying to deal with the nerfs that pistoleers have been calling for the bounty hunters. Up until this "ha told you so" crap hes done a **edit** good job.
Verasette
Sat Sep 20, 2003 9:22 pm
#5

varvidos is an idiot plain and simple. anyone who claims to be flying his private jet acroos the globe and is seen online the same day... is well pretty dumb. i got a bad felling hes behind alot more stupidity than expected. hes been calling nerf on both sides pistoleers and bh so just ignore him cause we dont want pistoleers to think thats the kinda ppl we are. officially he IS NOT our correspondant cause he quit a couple weeks ago. Only no one has bothered to take his rights away and he trolls our forums now. so lets just let it die. heres to hoping that pistoleers get fixed up and BH get a little tweaking on there carbine and maybe a little help with investigation. NERFS ARE NOT NEEDED EITHER WAY. FIX THE PROFFESIONS FIRST. im willing to bet u guys would be happy if your specials worked as intended or even worked at all. or maybe targeted one ham? yeah that would be nice to see for you guys



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Keito_Temreh
Sat Sep 20, 2003 9:38 pm
#6

Blah the main problem i see bounty hunters complaining about is they get their non combat profession chosen for them and we don't. yep they have to take scout which i think in my own opinion is stupid. If they want to track better than droids well then they should be able to choose taking that and ranger tracking on their own accord, not having it force fed to them. Master Bounty hunter without scout required would only cost 140 skill points, leaving them enough to master another profession and some to dabble with as we do.


We should all be roughly equal in pvp, with them having slight edge by being able to target any HAM they want to. DPS wise we should all be pretty close, we should all be deadly in our own right. They are a hybrid, high level of skill on several weapons and master of none, with the ability to exploit their enemies weakness.


Basically they are angry because they get forced to take a non combat profession and we don't, we can go all combat and they can't. Maybe the devs will realize the stupidity of that decision and change the scout requirement.




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-TAKEDOWN-
Sun Sep 21, 2003 4:14 am
#7

I can't resist, I have to reply on this.


Varv is actually a BH dabbler before. He was a Master Pistoleer. He thought investigation and llc is broken so there is no point in climbing them. But due to people's request he became an MBH.


Lastly, MBH are gimps. You only get 2 good pvp abilities with MBH. Eyeshot and Fireknockdown. There's not enough points to get other abilities. You either spend that 33 points on medic to get FA2 or spend it on CH/medic for better tanks than FA2.


Pistoleers and other normal elite professions get to diversify. They can get doctor buffs or go towards MCH. THey can get carbineer for range kd or get rifleman for mind attacks.


IF you look at these 250 skill point templates andcompare it to the 250 skill point template an MBH has, you will soon realized that MBH are nothing more than gimps.






Let's look at it more closely. MBH only get 33 skill points left. There are 2 very popular MBH templates.
1. MBH, novice medic, ch(1-1-0-0)
- Fire KD, EyeShot, LLC to kill pets, Weak heals(no FA2), but gets one CL 25 pet.
2. MBH, medic (3-0-3-0)
- Fire KD, EyeShot, LLC to kill pets, medic for heals and FA2


Note: If you noticed, I didn't put any MBH abilities there. I didn't put them there since a lot of MBH hates them.


THen Let's look at the other PvP Templates.
1. Master Rifleman, Master CH, dabbler carbineer, dabbler medic
- This profession gets mind dot, better mind damage, best pets, better heals and has a range aoe kd.
2. Dabbler Smuggler, Pistoleer, BH pistol 4, dabbler medic.
- Probably one of the best PvP templates in the game. Uses the most powerful pistol moves with no delay. Capable of inflicting damage on mind, health and action pools. Has kd also.
3. Master CH, Commando Rocket Launcher 4, dabbler medic.
- Best pets, High Damaging weapon to be used against pets or on desperate situations, better heals.
4. Pistoleer, Dabbler BH(0-4-4-0), dabbler Medic
- Uses pistol abilities with little delay, has the most powerful BH abilities(firekd, Eyeshot), capable of inflicting damage against mind, health, action.
5. Master Doctor, Master Rifleman.
- This is probably one of my favorites. Best mind dot, and mind damage. Impossible to kill unless you can damage mind due to HAM buffs/regen and great heals/cures.
6. Master CM, Master Pistoleer
- Probably one of the most annoying. Uses diseases to take away your health down to 1. Pistols for range combat.








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NeitzDecus
Sun Sep 21, 2003 5:29 am
#8

I always wondered why there was a debate between BH and pistoleer. I admit that I don't peruse the boards too often but it seemed nonsensical.




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WookFu
Sun Sep 21, 2003 7:53 am
#9

vgeist ...there is not an inbalance if the pistoleer has some other skill close to mastery. In, fact that pistoleer can be more powerful in tru group pvp, not one on one pvp like you people are mostly talking about.
Crimsonn
Sun Sep 21, 2003 12:24 pm
#10

Dfalcon....I try not to insult people but this is an idiotic post. Varv was suggesting eye shot nerfs before anyone started complaining about it, now how in your little mind does that show him to have "led the Elitist 50% of the BH community into thinking they should be Gods"?


Lets take a look at how your mind formulates an argument...


Many BHs want to be elite


Varv was the BH correspondent


Therefore, varv wants BHs to be elite.



Uh...right...if you can't see how flawed this logic is then you seriously need to spend less time playing games and spend more time in school.

vGeist
Sun Sep 21, 2003 12:54 pm
#11

Yeah, bounty hunters are big on logic. Some real deep thinkers over there.
KandiDain
Sun Sep 21, 2003 4:42 pm
#12

Well I'm keeping bounty for the speed atlest. I can then use stop shop really well.



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Aynn
Sun Sep 21, 2003 4:54 pm
#13

Master pistoleers should get eyeshot and Bounty Hunters should get Disarm shot (remove weapon) imo, why is BH special move best(better) than any pistoleer, master of pistols specials? These 2 special moves need to be switched.




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