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shadezmc
Sat Nov 06, 2004 9:06 pm
#1
I personally enjoy JTL, but there are things that need to be addressed or will it fall upon deaf ears.
1st.one shot PVP kills
2nd apparnet differences of weapons vs shields,, shields plus armor can barely keep pace with the weapons available in game.
3rd flight charectoristics of the B-wing, a master lvl ship that handles worse then the ywing
4th experiementing on components,, some components have 6 plus things to put points on,, yet nearly half of the ship components player made can't compete with looted stuff
5th resource ammounts for components and subcomponents
6th forced pvp for anyone that wants to master pilot
7th multiplayer ships being so poorly equipped,, come on a masssive ship having little better fire power then the xwing,, come on put some more gun slots on this thing,without it it's a flying coffin against most player vs player contacts
8th will these concerns land on deaf ears
i personally enjoy JTL. these are just some of my mere observations.. that could make a great game into a suberb game if addressed
Message Edited by shadezmc on 11-06-2004 08:09 PM
Kivan28
Sat Nov 06, 2004 9:14 pm
#2
Agreed.. the multi-passanger ships arent exactly what you'd call.. powerful in PvP, I think they need to make specific weapons+sheilds for multi-passanger ships to make them a lot better.
DeusMalleus
Sat Nov 06, 2004 9:20 pm
#3
shadezmc wrote:
3rd flight charectoristics of the B-wing, a master lvl ship that handles worse then the ywing
This I dont agree on, its a "bomber" and should behave like one. It loads alot of stuff and is basicly a flying cannon. Doesnt matter if its a master ship, its not supposed to be easy to use, thats why it requires a master to pilot.
Cuality
Sat Nov 06, 2004 9:27 pm
#4
exactly, the thing is a flying tank, not a dogfighter. it is supposed to hit capital ships hard, not dance around with the interceptors.
DeusMalleus wrote:
shadezmc wrote:
3rd flight charectoristics of the B-wing, a master lvl ship that handles worse then the ywing
This I dont agree on, its a "bomber" and should behave like one. It loads alot of stuff and is basicly a flying cannon. Doesnt matter if its a master ship, its not supposed to be easy to use, thats why it requires a master to pilot.
Kivan28
Sat Nov 06, 2004 9:30 pm
#5
Heh, but they are sitting ducks In PvP...
Cuality wrote:
exactly, the thing is a flying tank, not a dogfighter. it is supposed to hit capital ships hard, not dance around with the interceptors.
DeusMalleus wrote:
shadezmc wrote:
3rd flight charectoristics of the B-wing, a master lvl ship that handles worse then the ywing
This I dont agree on, its a "bomber" and should behave like one. It loads alot of stuff and is basicly a flying cannon. Doesnt matter if its a master ship, its not supposed to be easy to use, thats why it requires a master to pilot.
ShortTimer
Sat Nov 06, 2004 9:32 pm
#6
B-Wing
Actuallyin the X-Wing / TIE Fighter games the B-wing was the uber-ship. It had more firepower and armor than a Y-Wing and about as fast and manuverable as a X-wing. I was kinda thinking that's how it would perform here. Even in the movies the B-wing was keeping up with the Falcon and whupped up on the Empire.
Dragonbanisher
Sat Nov 06, 2004 9:33 pm
#7
B-wings aren't fast but they are supposed to be hyper maneuverable when the foils are activated. When in "WIng" mode their speed is supposed to go up but maneuverability isn't nearly as good.
shadezmc
Sat Nov 06, 2004 9:53 pm
#8
exavtly , bwings flight charectoristics makes it turn fast but slow on top end,,, its physics,, and if you use the reference of xwing alliance it performed as such,, it was designed to turn on a dime.. i'm not saying make it uber , just reasonable,, and basicly the rebellion already has 2 bombers aka ywing and ywing long probe.. bwing is quote a experiemental multirole purposecraft by design,if you read the literature. if you cant figure that out by the simple physics, go take a physics class 101.
Cuality
Sat Nov 06, 2004 10:19 pm
#9
shadezmc wrote:
exavtly , bwings flight charectoristics makes it turn fast but slow on top end,,, its physics,, and if you use the reference of xwing alliance it performed as such,, it was designed to turn on a dime.. i'm not saying make it uber , just reasonable,, and basicly the rebellion already has 2 bombers aka ywing and ywing long probe.. bwing is quote a experiemental multirole purposecraft by design,if you read the literature. if you cant figure that out by the simple physics, go take a physics class 101.
i can't believed that someone played the physics card in reference to star wars...
if the b-wing was the solve-all for the rebels... then why were they still flying x-wings? not just at endor, but throughout the rest of the EU? they were flying them in the new jedi order...
the b-wing is a craft used to take out capital ships. it is a glorified bomber platform. it has insane amounts of gunpower (4 projectiles, 2 missiles in JTL) but it still moves worse than the x-wing.
all they need to do is tweak the shields and armor on the upper level equipment to let it survive longer in pvp.
Bloodshead
Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:08 am
#10
The B-wing was designed to be a real heavy hitter, but with it in pvp, its utter crap.
Why have so much firepower if everything dies in 1-2 hits, heck a Z95 can take out a Decimator just as fast as a B-wing can
Why have so much armor if everyone dies in 1-2 hits, B-wings cant take more damage then A-wings can.
I guess the devs didnt think of these ideas when coding JTL. They have seriously made some major mistakes here.
This has created a situation, where ppl take A-wings and interceptors with no shields/armor at all and everything into their speed. Yah why dont we all just walk naked in a blizzard. /sarcasm off
Minic
Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:20 am
#11
i think the reason the bwing isnt "the ub3r sh1t" in pvp is because the devs dont want everyone at the end game to be using the same thing as it is on the ground game. Therefore there will be a place for bwings in large scale engagements, but for pvp most people should use xwings and awings (as in the movies as well; xwings, awings are most common for dogfighting; bwings/ywings for bomber missions and capital ship duty). also that's why i cant immagine anyone pvping in a tie bomber for instance or aggressor(or was it the oppressor? cant remember the correct name but one of em is slow as hell and has lotsa missiles or somethin; granted aggressor/oppressor has more missiles and stuff but really its poor tactics to have to rely on missiles to make up for what one lacks in skill).
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