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Thread: Petition: Force roleplay for Master Pilot!

JimerLins
Mon Nov 08, 2004 11:34 am
#1

Here's the deal- right now, it's possible to become a Master Pilot in this game without having to demonstrate any role-playing skills at all. I think this needs to change. With that in mind, I'd like the Devs to implement a system that requires everyone who wants to become a Master Pilot to interact with another person as a role-player. That person has to be someone in Kessell at the time of the Master mission and that person (chosen at random) gets to decide if the person RP'd well enough to earn the title. If the other player doesn't think they did well enough, the mission is reset and you have to start over.

Hey, if we're gonna force a playstyle, let's force one of my favorites.

In all seriousness, I'm posting this based on a comment made by someone in another thread. It points out the silliness of trying to force a playstyle on someone who wants an in-game achievement.

Some people think that it's a good thing for Master Pilot to remain in an open PvP zone like Kessell because it makes the title rare and difficult to achieve. I say there's other ways to accomplish that goal. I don't understand why people think that there should be more respect accorded to someone who likes PvP than someone who doesn't. I don't have a lot of respect for someone who thinks the be-all and end-all of MMO gaming is PvP.

As far as respect goes, I get plenty in my real job and life. I don't come to SWG to get respect, I come here to have fun. If you don't think I'm doing enough to achieve my titles, you're cordially invited to go eat your heart out. I'm not interested in other people's definitions of what should be difficult or worthy of a title. This is a game, not a job, and I'm not interested in fighting with other players to achieve a title in-game that shouldn't have fighting with other players a requirement.

Personally, as I've said before, I'm looking forward to PvP in space, because I've been playing twitch-based flight games since 1985. But I'm not interested in fending off gankers while trying to accomplish a PvE mission.

So anyway- if you think that people should have to demonstrate a command of ALL the aspects of being a pilot character to be a Master Pilot, then /sign



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Lilleth
Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:21 pm
#2

from the deepest bottem of my heart:


/SIGN


It's a game - and I want fun. I got enough stress with other people (including my boss) at work. And I pay hard earned cash to play this game. Roleplay is my favorite and I enjoy it so much.


I can't understand those people who always want to "win" or to be "upper" than others.


I force nobody to roleplay, i accept every player even if they took silly names, exploit gamemechanics and so on. All that I want is to be accpeted as well - with my views, my playstile, my fun.


Thanks!




Lilleth
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Palad
Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:30 pm
#3

/sign


I tried RPing an imperial this weekend in pvp on ground. I wore the imperial officers hat, and the black pilots uniform and only used a pistol. I was simply talking to another overt imperial in charecter when some jerkwad walked up to me and said "you know, people like you are easy targets". He was imperial and was demanding to duel me just so he could kill me. I think role playing should be a key aspect of getting jedi also, since the majority of jedi I have incountered all used l33t speek and called other people fags and gay. Its funny how the pinticle of the star wars universe is represented by a pasty 15 year old kid who calls people noobs and behaves like a buttface. Wasnt george lucas all weary about even letting jedi be in the game because he didnt want them ruined and done wrong? It appears the dollar sign is more important then his legacy, but this is all off topic.


if sony forces the PVP playstyle, they should also forcethe Role playingplaystyle.



An empire of one!
Nell2ThaIzzay
Mon Nov 08, 2004 2:21 pm
#4

/sign


If we are going to force a playstyle, it should be the definition of the game, no?


After all, this is a MMORPG, not an MMOFPS, right? Why should PvP'ng be more important than role playing?



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silversaber
Mon Nov 08, 2004 2:25 pm
#5

There is NO way they can force roleplaying in any MMORPG without making the game so restrictive hardly anyone will play it.


Its bad enough that they force PvP in the Master Pilot mission, stop trying to destroy this game further.
unity200
Mon Nov 08, 2004 2:30 pm
#6

force yourself.

i dont wanna be forced to anything.


and thats it.



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JimerLins
Mon Nov 08, 2004 2:34 pm
#7



silversaber wrote:
There is NO way they can force roleplaying in any MMORPG without making the game so restrictive hardly anyone will play it.
Its bad enough that they force PvP in the Master Pilot mission, stop trying to destroy this game further.





Who's trying to destroy the game? I'm using ironic commentary to make a point. Read my original post more carefully.

I'm not advocating something like that in a serious fashion. I'm trying to get the point across to the people that think there's no problem with forcing a playstyle on people to master a profession can cut both ways.



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JimerLins
Mon Nov 08, 2004 2:35 pm
#8



unity200 wrote:
force yourself.

i dont wanna be forced to anything.


and thats it.




The winnar!

EXACTLY the point.



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"A man may fight for many things. His country, his friends, his principles, the glistening tear on the cheek of a golden child. But personally, I'd mud-wrestle my own mother for a ton of cash, an amusing clock and a sack of French porn." -Edmund Blackadder
Kalbikalya
Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:20 pm
#9


What a great post! 5stars..

Juusman
Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:37 pm
#10






Palad wrote:

/sign


I tried RPing an imperial this weekend in pvp on ground. I wore the imperial officers hat, and the black pilots uniform and only used a pistol. I was simply talking to another overt imperial in charecter when some jerkwad walked up to me and said "you know, people like you are easy targets". He was imperial and was demanding to duel me just so he could kill me. I think role playing should be a key aspect of getting jedi also, since the majority of jedi I have incountered all used l33t speek and called other people fags and gay. Its funny how the pinticle of the star wars universe is represented by a pasty 15 year old kid who calls people noobs and behaves like a buttface. Wasnt george lucas all weary about even letting jedi be in the game because he didnt want them ruined and done wrong? It appears the dollar sign is more important then his legacy, but this is all off topic.


if sony forces the PVP playstyle, they should also forcethe Role playingplaystyle.






How about this:


Juusman spots Palad making a run at the corvette in the Kessel zone.. swoopsdown on his A-Wing and vapourizes him in 2 shots..


**static** "Rogue leader this is Rogue 5.. all opposition has been eliminated.. repeat, all opposition has been eliminated.." *static*



I'm going to make a macro and hit that every time I kill a player.

Message Edited by Juusman on 11-08-2004 02:39 PM



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Shadowace156
Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:45 pm
#11


not all of us are starwars geeks, some of us just want to play a game, there are alot of other roleplayers go RP with them

Message Edited by Shadowace156 on 11-08-2004 03:04 PM



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JimerLins
Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:50 pm
#12



Shadowace156 wrote:
not all of use are starwars geeks, some of us just want to play a game, there are alot of other roleplayers go RP with them





Wow, the irony meter just asplode.




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"A man may fight for many things. His country, his friends, his principles, the glistening tear on the cheek of a golden child. But personally, I'd mud-wrestle my own mother for a ton of cash, an amusing clock and a sack of French porn." -Edmund Blackadder
TazJedi
Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:32 pm
#13

if it's good for the goose....


/SIGN



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