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when the hell that craft had become so powerful and effective ? i havent seen any firespray in xwing tie fighter or xwa ? nor in films do we see any action of them except chasing a jedi who is not a pilot by profession or chasing han solo's ship after they escape via garbage.
i attach this newfound glory of that craft due to the popularity of junga and boba fett.
this is wrong. it is not nice to exagerrate and overrate stuff that was not too common or had not been found in abundance during related periods of the saga, just because it is thought the owner of that item is cool, or the item gained too much publicity.
even now we can tell from the jtl that x wings, a wings, y wings or tie fighters and interceptors were the key players in sw fighter battles, there are more powerful, and unfortunately much more competent craft surpassing them.
had it been possible to integrate shield gens, a rear turret and 2-4 guns to a small tie chassis, empire would do it by episode 5.
had firespray been that much powerful, neither empire would be using ties nor alliance would be using x wings.
it is much neccessary that timeline and lore be sticked to.
unity200 wrote:
suddenly firespray attack craft is something that can be obtained by mastering any piloting profession. this denotes that it has sufficient power and prowess to be put on master level.
You assume too much. Just because a ship is certified at the master level does not mean it neccesarily has to be a powerful ship. Commercial airline pilots after all have to go through long and vigorous training before they are allowed to fly any large passenger aircraft. Is it because a 747 is such a powerful aircraft? No, it's because it costs a hell of a lot of money and takes a lot of a responsibility to fly. It's the same way with the Firespray, as in there aren't a lot of them around in this time period so only the best of the best would be able to obtain one. Not only does it take master pilot to fly and own, but it also isn't easy to craft one either. It takes 8 different schematic parts which can only be obtained through reverse engineering random loot and hoping one of these schematic parts pops out at the end.
when the hell that craft had become so powerful and effective ? i havent seen any firespray in xwing tie fighter or xwa ? nor in films do we see any action of them except chasing a jedi who is not a pilot by profession or chasing han solo's ship after they escape via garbage.
You might want to go back and play XWA again, as the the uncle flys one all the time. Also don't forget that the movies only show a very slim portion of the star wars universe. The reason why we only see one character flying a Firespray is because they wanted to focus all of the attention of that ship onto the fetts to give it more importance. After all we only see one YT-1300 in the movies as well but I don't hear you complaining about that.
i attach this newfound glory of that craft due to the popularity ofjungaJango and boba fett.
You're right in the sense that the returned interest in the firespray project is because of the fett clan. Originally it was only going to be an average patrol craft however after Jango stole one of the prototypes and destroyed the rest the project was abandoned for awhile. Then after the creators saw the extraordinary things that the bounty hunter was doing with the prototype ship, KSE took an interest in the project again and starting manufacturing the Firespray in limited quantaties again.
this is wrong. it is not nice to exagerrate and overrate stuff that was not too common or had not been found in abundance during related periods of the saga, just because it is thought the owner of that item is cool, or the item gained too much publicity.
And how is this wrong? No one is exagerrating anything, you act as though everyone gets a firespray when they take up novice pilot. Just how many firesprays have you seen players piloting? Probably none. The ship is in very limited quantaty where only the richest of the master pilots will even own one. KSE began manufacturing them again around this time period so there's nothing wrong with that. And believe it or not, there are quite a few people out there who like the Firespray only because of the ship itself and not because they want to be like the famous bounty hunters.
even now we can tell from the jtl that x wings, a wings, y wings or tie fighters and interceptors were the key players in sw fighter battles, there are more powerful, and unfortunately much more competent craft surpassing them.
The iconical snub fighters ARE the key players in the star wars battles, so I don't see what your problem is. Just because those are the key fighters doesen't mean that those are the only ones which can be featured in the expansion.
had it been possible to integrate shield gens, a rear turret and 2-4 guns to a small tie chassis, empire would do it by episode 5.
had firespray been that much powerful, neither empire would be using ties nor alliance would be using x wings.
If you're talking about the Avenger, then clearly you've never heard about the Defender. The TIE Defender had even more than what you're boasting there with 4 laser cannons, 2 ion cannons, 2 warhead launchers, a hyperdrive, AND deflector shields. On top of all that the ship was even faster and more manueverable than the TIE Interceptor. Clearly though you don't understand how the empire works, as they go for quantity over quality. They would rather mass produce 500 TIE Fighters to swarm the enemy with than produce 50 high quality fighters. The Empire most certainately could create ships similar to which you quoted, only they refused to create them in any large quantity because of the costs associated with them. Not to mention if they gave all of their small snub fighters shields and a hyperdrive it would severely limit the dependency on capital ships, which would mean they wouldn't be able to produce as many Imperial Star Destroyers. Everything the empire did was for a reason, not because of some kind of limitation.
it is much neccessary that timeline and lore be sticked to.
yes i remember it was main chars brother's preferred craft, the firespray.
so what ? there are 2 in total saga. there were no firesprays jumping around in any movie in abundance. but will be so in jtl.
if it is not seen abundance in a movie or in an accomplished game, then it was prevented by this or that reason from being so.
and in the timeline of jtl, situation is not changed, were still after 4 and before 5.
it is wrong to introduce craft which are unlikely to be seen during this timeperiod.
TravonLepen wrote:
I believe I heard somewherethat the Firespray was a very high tech prototype ship, and only 9 or so were made, all of the others were destroyed by Jango Fett. According to either the EU or canon, SOE hasn't "exagerrated" anything, these ships were very rare, in fact no more were made after the originals, and the blueprints were also destroyed. That's why the rebellion and the Empire don't use them.
They used to be high-tech back in the day, in the SWG timeframe, they are outdated, which is another reason why it isn't used. Also, it isn't a starfighter, it's a larger ship.
Also, I agree that there shouldn't be many of these ships, but AFAIK the firespray isn't exactly the best ship in JTL anyway, so manypeople will not actually want to use it (at least I hope so).
Message Edited by Glzmo on 11-13-2004 06:05 AM
The whole High-Level game is based around "Who can be most like Boba Fett". The Death Watch bunker? Jedi Hunting missions? And you're surprised about the Firespray?
BH's complain about their lack of content and all the stuff that's broken with their profession but they've gotten more love from the dev's right from the start. They've always had more content. They complained about their Investigate content... they complain about having to master 3 professions and they complain about the Jedi being too hard.
This game is focused entirely on becoming the best BH. No more Story Arc's for faction members and the GCW sucks because they are too busy trying to make BH's feel more like Boba.
It's ridiculous.
unity200 wrote:
suddenly firespray attack craft is something that can be obtained by mastering any piloting profession. this denotes that it has sufficient power and prowess to be put on master level.
when the hell that craft had become so powerful and effective ? i havent seen any firespray in xwing tie fighter or xwa ? nor in films do we see any action of them except chasing a jedi who is not a pilot by profession or chasing han solo's ship after they escape via garbage.
i attach this newfound glory of that craft due to the popularity of junga and boba fett.
this is wrong. it is not nice to exagerrate and overrate stuff that was not too common or had not been found in abundance during related periods of the saga, just because it is thought the owner of that item is cool, or the item gained too much publicity.
even now we can tell from the jtl that x wings, a wings, y wings or tie fighters and interceptors were the key players in sw fighter battles, there are more powerful, and unfortunately much more competent craft surpassing them.
had it been possible to integrate shield gens, a rear turret and 2-4 guns to a small tie chassis, empire would do it by episode 5.
had firespray been that much powerful, neither empire would be using ties nor alliance would be using x wings.
it is much neccessary that timeline and lore be sticked to.