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Reevan
Wed Nov 10, 2004 11:53 pm
#1
my veiw, kessel is better as a PvE zone as people have to do missions there to make master pilot/reb/imp. today i was helping a friend on his rebel master missions and a gang of imp players kept greifing u, the only people that will complain to keep it a pvp zone are the greifers as they will not be able to take out players thus stopping them from being a master pilot. once you get master pilot you have deep space, yes this should be a PvP zone where master pilots can test there skills against other players
just my veiws
FuryoftheStars
Thu Nov 11, 2004 12:00 am
#2
I haven't been to Kessel yet, but I think I would have perfered it to be the Master missions were moved into a PvE instance of Kessel (or just a different area altogether) and kept Kessel PvP.
ShadowSaber5
Thu Nov 11, 2004 12:07 am
#3
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=lightspeed&message.id=146464
i think it should still be a PvP Zone so they PvP'ers can have variety, but i also think kessel should be instanced or the missions completely moved out of it.
i think it should still be a PvP Zone so they PvP'ers can have variety, but i also think kessel should be instanced or the missions completely moved out of it.
Reevan
Thu Nov 11, 2004 12:09 am
#4
or have a choice to be overt or covert to let the people doing there missions have a chance
Chymos
Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:10 am
#5
They changed Kessel to PvE? Hmm.....And I was gearing up mentally for the challenge even though I don't really care for PvP.....oh well.
In that case, add new zones for PvP! *One* PvP zone would likely get boring after a while even for griefers, I'd think.
darmokVtS
Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:24 am
#7
No. If "PvP" is your content, it hasn't been removed. The Deep Space sector still is a PvP sector
Opiacee
Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:40 am
#8
oh yes forgoten that fighting for a useless station is "content"...
we fight for useless bases in ground and are happy with GCW arn't we?
Why do not do the same in space?
don't change something that work...
we fight for useless bases in ground and are happy with GCW arn't we?
Why do not do the same in space?
don't change something that work...
hase2
Thu Nov 11, 2004 3:55 am
#9
i personally think kessel should remain a PvP zone.
i liked the thrill when flying there.
i spend my whole last night in kessel yesterday doing my master mission. i had a squad of bombers, superiority fighters and interceptors with me.
we were attacked several times by random ppl. lost a few ships, killed a few.
when kessel becomes a PvE zone. please remove the 'Ace' from our pilot tags.
when you see someone wearing the Ace tag you know that he was able to assemble a force strong enough to draw all enemies away from his mission target AND survive vs a strong NPC force or gotten extremly lucky
both valid in my eyes 
when Kessel is PvE master pilot or Ace means nothing more. just another guy that grinded his way up and killed a big mob.
Reevan
Thu Nov 11, 2004 7:36 pm
#10
but this just keeps mastering pilot to a massive asslut group on kessel, yes this would be fun but you would be fighting players and not doing the mission, all the master pilots imp or rebel will greif people trying to become a master, i have seen it done and it has happend to me, kessel being a pve zone is a good idea
If kessel isnt hard enough trying to master pilot, finding the vette and attacking it, you have to worry about Master pilots attacking you. yeah ill admit it level 5 npcs are bloody hard for me, one on one i could take one but it takes a while
Message Edited by Reevan on 11-12-2004 02:41 AM
Slarus
Thu Nov 11, 2004 7:47 pm
#11
my veiw, kessel is better as a PvE zone as people have to do missions there to make master pilot/reb/imp. today i was helping a friend on his rebel master missions and a gang of imp players kept greifing u, the only people that will complain to keep it a pvp zone are the greifers as they will not be able to take out players thus stopping them from being a master pilot. once you get master pilot you have deep space, yes this should be a PvP zone where master pilots can test there skills against other players
In my opinion the master mission and kessel should be seperate. Kessel should be PvP like before but to finish the last box in your profession you should not be subjected to PvP unless you are by your choice overt. Griefing sadly will happen in PvP but they like it for the most part. Also if you declare overt you stay overt till you declare covert again, it should not revert to covert without your approval. Lastly to declare overt I think you should be able to toggle it anywhere but it takes 30 seconds to take effect either way.
Move the mission
keep PvP Kessel
It simple to say but the Devs have alot of work so they used the current PvE Kessel as a stop gap and is temporary.
Ace and Master equal finished 18 advancement boxes there is no PvP title there never was, Ace is not a PvP title the Devs used Ace so it feels like your a Pilot, that is the only reason.
Message Edited by Slarus on 11-11-2004 06:49 PM
CliffDweller
Thu Nov 11, 2004 8:05 pm
#12
From personal experience I have to say that the current PvP setup in Kessel makes for a big playground for the griefers. They wait on the fringes and attack players only when they are occupied and otherwise avoid PvP. It would be nice if players/groups that are in Kessel for missions were locked out of PvP allowing both groups to use the zone.
riotcontrol
Thu Nov 11, 2004 8:07 pm
#13
Slarus wrote:In my opinion the master mission and kessel should be seperate. Kessel should be PvP like before but to finish the last box in your profession you should not be subjected to PvP unless you are by your choice overt. Griefing sadly will happen in PvP but they like it for the most part. Also if you declare overt you stay overt till you declare covert again, it should not revert to covert without your approval. Lastly to declare overt I think you should be able to toggle it anywhere but it takes 30 seconds to take effect either way.Move the missionkeep PvP Kessel
Exactly. Make Master missions happen in an instanced PvE Kessel and don't take away the only free-for-all PvP zone. There are plenty of places to participate in overt GCW, and there are plenty of places to participate in PvE. Kessel was unique.
If, in fact, instanced Master missions are in the works, we deserve to be told that PvE Kessel is just a quick fix and will be changed back so we don't have to guess.
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