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Thread: The OFFICIAL Don't Ruin Kessel Petition
tragikme
Wed Nov 10, 2004 3:23 pm
#94
/sign it should not be easy to get ace. bring friends, that's what i did. don't make kessel a freebie
FunkHunter
Wed Nov 10, 2004 5:15 pm
#97
/sign
fookin pussies first ruin jedi/ground pvp now they wreck space pvp. all you care bears can suck on a lemon.
fookin pussies first ruin jedi/ground pvp now they wreck space pvp. all you care bears can suck on a lemon.
CaboFS
Wed Nov 10, 2004 5:15 pm
#98
/AGREE If you are a pansy and dont what to chance the possibility of PvP you can train master by getting the XP.
slave138
Wed Nov 10, 2004 5:59 pm
#99
First off, I'd like to preface this by saying I'm all for PvPbetween members of the Empire and the Rebellion. I'm not a huge fan of covert status in the ground game, as I think members of the factions should be in a war and not just playing dress-up. When it comes to space, I'm even less of a fan. If they can figure out a way to avoid load-killing and Hyperspace camping, I think all rebels and Imperials should be perma-overt when in space.
With that said, I also recognize the desire a great majority of the players have not to PvP. That wasgreat and perfectly protected by neutrality - except in Kessel. Therein lies the problem. Those who are neutral should not have to engage in PvP to master their profession and I can easily understand why they are upset.
I'm also strongly against having the Master Missions, as they are now, in a PvP-required zone. They are too variable in their difficulty. Some may master the profession with little additional threat from other players while others are expected to face their mission with an ever increasing number of opponents waiting to make sure they don't. I would like to see master mean something and mean the same thing for everyone who has it.
I would have rather seen them move the missions out of the Kessel system, but if that is something that cannot be done (or done easily enough) I can understand why they temporarily disabled automatic PvP in the sector.
As some people pointed out here, anyone can declare themselves and have PvP anywhere they want with other consenting players. And as others pointed out, you'd be hard pressed to find someone that wanted to. To me this says a couple things. First, those that want to keep the master missions in Kessel along with the forced PvP figure this is the only way they can fight other players in a high enough concentration to keep it interesting - whether their targets want to fight them or not. Second, the pro-PvP crowd is really small or else a bunch of cowards who are only interested in attacking those who are forced to fight them in order to complete their profession. By keeping the only forced PvP (once the temporary change goes into effect) in deep space, it ensures all players have access to the same levels of equipment. What's the problem? Are the PvPers so afraid to face someone on equal terms? Hell, as a PvPer, I would do everything I could to ensure more people mastered the profession in hopes they would venture into deep space.
With that said, I would gladly leave Kessel as a PvP zone as long as the missions are not there.
/conditional_sign
Message Edited by slave138 on 11-10-2004 05:01 PM
ExarKunn
Wed Nov 10, 2004 7:36 pm
#100
gera wrote:
I dont remember SWG is a FPS. Any game you mentioned is played by who accepts to PvP. Kessel is not the only PvP zone. Every zone is a PvP zone if you are 'overt'. Insisting on Kessel would just be open door for griefing call. It may sound cool, but one day, you will pissed off and can post "I cancel my accounts because I cannot enter into Kessel, cos I am continously getting killed 1 shot in loading screen" topic.
I have Never gotten pissed at Dying In PVP in any Game I have Ever Played, UO, PVP EQ (Laugh), SWG, Lineage2, Neocron.. Its all in fun and its always Been Decent Fights.. I always say that was fun, Im Gunna Get Him Back soon. and Move on, Nothing i love More than Fighting a Real Live person, and knowing hes Fighting His hardest to Stay Alive just Like i am, UO was alittle Different, But PVP was still Fun I was a Bounty Hunter in UO before they Jacked Up the Bounty system. Hunting Known Murderers and Caliming the Bountys. by Killing them and Turning in their Heads. but i digress,
I have lost Hope for SWG, and Will still Play but this is not starwars its SonyWashedupGalaxies, I will get jedi, I will get Master Pilot, and this May Become StarWarsGalaxies again like it was back in july of 03 after the Combat Upgrade revamp rework.
Thrydwulf_Zen
Wed Nov 10, 2004 7:53 pm
#101
/sign
Keep Kessel pvp enabled or fix it so the GCW in space actually means something. Give us a reason to fight in the STAR WARS.
It is ridiculous that in order to have a war it has to be planned and scheduled. If you need some ideas please look at DAOC.
Keep Kessel pvp enabled or fix it so the GCW in space actually means something. Give us a reason to fight in the STAR WARS.
It is ridiculous that in order to have a war it has to be planned and scheduled. If you need some ideas please look at DAOC.
mpedersen
Wed Nov 10, 2004 9:45 pm
#102
a1davida1 wrote:
This is a thread for those of us who feel Kessel is a good thing, whether or not the master pilot mission is there. Move the damned corvette.The PvP is JTL endgame in my opinion and many others. I have heard talk of people QUITTING swg over them ruining Kessel. JTL was supposed to save swg, not ruin it. For alot of us the rush of pvp is the only thing we have left in this medicore (at best game). So sign this if you believe pvp should be kept in Kessel.
If you really want to ruin PvP that is fine, our 10%+ of people will just go play WoW or EQ2 or L2 or CoH, you know those games your supposed to be competing with for player base.
PS. This thread is not a place for flames, any post made here will be considered a yes signature for keeping Kessel PvP enabled. So sign up if your for saving swg. (or at least saving A TON of people from quitting) I figure it will take 500 signatures for them to take notice so lets get to it
I partly agree with you. They should leave PVP in Kessel, they should leave corvette in kessel, but relaying the thought of another forum, if you're entering Kessel with a PVE mission you should have the option of entering and being "untargetable".
Problem solved.
Chavabegga
Wed Nov 10, 2004 9:51 pm
#103
Kessel stay PVP. As long as getting Master Pilot does not require going in there.
jexicredent9669
Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:11 pm
#104
Ok first off let me say that I am a heavy gamer and love pvp games. I was a heavy gamer of Delta Force, Counter Strike, Firearms, Planetside, and Battlefield Vietnam. But I think pvp should be an option and not FORCED. Ok kessel should be a pvp zone as it was made for. But the biggest problem I have is all these ppl saying, "Leave the corvette in pvp zone because getting ace should be hard." and while I agree with the fact that ace should be hard to get there are to many greifers in SWG to make the pvp to get master a good thing. These are the reasons why kessel was changed TEMPORARLY till they find a better way to fix it. I would sign this petition if they moved the master missions but what’s the point in signing it since its only a temp fix?