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Thread: I can honestly say I hate JTL because its way to hard.... Tier 3 is beyond hard and stupid!
Delroh
Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:23 pm
#66
Suba wrote:
Your 1111 Rebel Pilot gets a Ship that doesnt have 19,000 mass is why. At tier 3 we get our nice 50K mass tie interceptor with 1 laser and 1 missile while rebels get a 3 laser and 1 missile ship with 100K mass. Rebels get things so much easier. Tier 3 tie fighters? big freaking deal. I had 2 Rebel spy "tie fighters" attack me both tier 3. No shields etc so they drop faster then a fly on sith. Yet we in our little tin cans with 50K mass have to fight usually 7+ shielded tier 3 ships at a time. hardly fair
Whhhhhhaaaaaaa and you guys can group with your AT-ST for higher level missions whats your point? If you dont like it go Rebel. Atleast thats what all the Imps say when Rebels complain about AT-ST.
meeuki
Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:33 pm
#68
unfortunately a multiplayer game without cheat codes is just going to be too hard for some people.
1. there's absolutely no reason you should be better in your TIE/ln. if you were, you have done something wrong and missed something important in managing your ship. go back, look at it again, and find the problem.
2. while tier 3 storm squadron mission 1 is a pain in the ass, it's not impossible. in fact, it's can be solo'd and completed easily with two 3/2/2/2 interceptors. follow the advice of the above poster and learn how to actually play the game, instead of letting the game play you.
3. the mission does not take 90 minutes. it does take around an hour if you screw up and have to hyperspace a few times.
4. a group of 4 competant pilots makes this mission cake. the bottom line, no matter how you swing it, is that the game would seriously suffer if content was tailor made to be soloable by less skilled pilots. i am currently 3/2/2/2 with an interceptor and fairly poor components. (1200dmg blaster,62speed engine, 1200 shields)and i don't bat an eye at flying to kessle and engaging 1 or 2 tier 5 spawns. NPCs in this game are good for 1 move, after that they are beaten.
5. stop crying, go back to the game and make yourself better. making the game easier now will not help you in the slightest when you finish pilot and pvp is the endgame.
1. there's absolutely no reason you should be better in your TIE/ln. if you were, you have done something wrong and missed something important in managing your ship. go back, look at it again, and find the problem.
2. while tier 3 storm squadron mission 1 is a pain in the ass, it's not impossible. in fact, it's can be solo'd and completed easily with two 3/2/2/2 interceptors. follow the advice of the above poster and learn how to actually play the game, instead of letting the game play you.
3. the mission does not take 90 minutes. it does take around an hour if you screw up and have to hyperspace a few times.
4. a group of 4 competant pilots makes this mission cake. the bottom line, no matter how you swing it, is that the game would seriously suffer if content was tailor made to be soloable by less skilled pilots. i am currently 3/2/2/2 with an interceptor and fairly poor components. (1200dmg blaster,62speed engine, 1200 shields)and i don't bat an eye at flying to kessle and engaging 1 or 2 tier 5 spawns. NPCs in this game are good for 1 move, after that they are beaten.
5. stop crying, go back to the game and make yourself better. making the game easier now will not help you in the slightest when you finish pilot and pvp is the endgame.
Suba
Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:34 pm
#69
Jesus christ get over the AT-STs already. for feck sake if you guys want to be able to use the AT-ST iw ont complain. Maybe then youll whine to get it denerfed back to how it originally was.
So why dont you shove your head up your ass further and go jerk off cause thats all your worth in terms of your post. The Imbalance in ships is not ok. The Tie Interceptor and X-wing are supposed to be the same ship on different sides. WHy do you get double the mass and double the weapons for the same tier?
loomis001
Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:34 pm
#70
Ducimus wrote:
LeBob wrote:
Cry4Dawn wrote:There is nothing fun about spending 500K on a Tie Interceptor or whatever the price is to have it trashed 1 hr later and buy another one because you cant survive a single mission. Screw the combat Revamp, how about fixing JTL so its playable.......um..... player ships are never destroyed unless you delete them.... they also do not take damage.... the components take damage, but you should be looting enough of these to replace them.... times 5
No, CHASSIS DO DEGRADE.
your wrong sure they degrade but never gets perma destroyed if condition 0/0
FS_Paith
Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:38 pm
#71
The fact remains that swg was never meant to be a 'solo' game. It became that way with buffs and composite hence the 20 person group.
meeuki
Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:39 pm
#72
What's the downside to degredation? I've been using the same chassis/components since saturday and i've died oh, probably well over 50 times with no discernable loss in performance. I still kill ships just as fast, they kill me just as fast. I still fly just as fast....
Delroh
Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:41 pm
#73
Ummm what the hell do you think you're playing? Its called a MMORPG. if you dont think you should group go play X-Wing Vs TIE Fighter, you compairing a MMORPG to another MMORPG and then complain about grouping is about retarded.
Ducimus wrote:
Don't even give me the "thou shalt group" garbage either. If i wanted to be forced into grouping, id play everquest.
Delroh
Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:46 pm
#74
Suba wrote:
Jesus christ get over the AT-STs already. for feck sake if you guys want to be able to use the AT-ST iw ont complain. Maybe then youll whine to get it denerfed back to how it originally was.
So why dont you shove your head up your ass further and go jerk off cause thats all your worth in terms of your post. The Imbalance in ships is not ok. The Tie Interceptor and X-wing are supposed to be the same ship on different sides. WHy do you get double the mass and double the weapons for the same tier?
WTH you get that they are supposed to be the same??? Anyone that knows thing 1 about SW in general knew that the TIE's in general didnt have great stuff, they didnt carry shields and didnt have Hyperdrives. they were made for speed. and ever notice in the movies that vary rarely a TIE would be out alone?!?!?! Thats because they used SWARM techniques you Idiot.
Ducimus
Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:48 pm
#75
Delroh wrote:Ummm what the hell do you think you're playing? Its called a MMORPG. if you dont think you should group go play X-Wing Vs TIE Fighter, you compairing a MMORPG to another MMORPG and then complain about grouping is about retarded.
Ducimus wrote:
Don't even give me the "thou shalt group" garbage either. If i wanted to be forced into grouping, id play everquest.
No, whats retarded is having to rely on others for things you need to get done. THAT is retarted.
DO you have any idea what its like to be unable to advance your character because you have to rely on other people who seriously, do not give a crap?
I pay 15 clams a month to play, I do not have the massive about of freetime to network connections or stand around spamming LFG!!!! Bottom line, my playtime is my time, and should not be dictated by the whims of other people. And that, is what is retarted about forced grouping.
And BTW, the genere of MMORPG does not default to mandatory grouping. Other MMORPGs that you are not forced to group are: Anarchy Online, Asheron's Call, Earth and Beyond (RIP), Eve online, etc etc.
So, we can take your MMORPG = grouping comments and toss them aside, they have no substance.
Delroh
Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:56 pm
#76
Ducimus wrote:
Delroh wrote:
Ummm what the hell do you think you're playing? Its called a MMORPG. if you dont think you should group go play X-Wing Vs TIE Fighter, you compairing a MMORPG to another MMORPG and then complain about grouping is about retarded.
Ducimus wrote:
Don't even give me the "thou shalt group" garbage either. If i wanted to be forced into grouping, id play everquest.
No, whats retarded is having to rely on others for things you need to get done. THAT is retarted.
DO you have any idea what its like to be unable to advance your character because you have to rely on other people who seriously, do not give a crap?
I pay 15 clams a month to play, I do not have the massive about of freetime to network connections or stand around spamming LFG!!!! Bottom line, my playtime is my time, and should not be dictated by the whims of other people. And that, is what is retarted about forced grouping.
And BTW, the genere of MMORPG does not default to mandatory grouping. Other MMORPGs that you are not forced to group are: Anarchy Online, Asheron's Call, Earth and Beyond (RIP), Eve online, etc etc.
So, we can take your MMORPG = grouping comments and toss them aside, they have no substance.
Yea boy an AO, Asherons, E&B and Eve sure lasted long huh?? yea people may still be playing the games but nowhere near what started. Solo games are burned out fast becasue if you can solo anything in the game whats the point? Shoot I guess we should just make it so a Bwing can take out a SSD too while were at it. I mean why bother someone to have to group with others.
Suba
Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:58 pm
#77
Hmm lets see
Stats
Tie Interceptor
4 Heavy Laser cannons
X-wing
4 Heavy Laser Cannons
They sure seem thesame to me yet vastly different here.
The Star Wars Official Site Database even goes further to say the Tie Interceptor was Made to be the Absolute counter to the Xwing and X-wing pilots feared for thier lives when Interceptors were present. The Interceptor not only was superior in speed but it had the firepower to matter.
Not in Galaxies! we get a subpar POS
meeuki
Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:58 pm
#78
Ducimus wrote:
Delroh wrote:Ummm what the hell do you think you're playing? Its called a MMORPG. if you dont think you should group go play X-Wing Vs TIE Fighter, you compairing a MMORPG to another MMORPG and then complain about grouping is about retarded.
Ducimus wrote:
Don't even give me the "thou shalt group" garbage either. If i wanted to be forced into grouping, id play everquest.
No, whats retarded is having to rely on others for things you need to get done. THAT is retarted.
DO you have any idea what its like to be unable to advance your character because you have to rely on other people who seriously, do not give a crap?
I pay 15 clams a month to play, I do not have the massive about of freetime to network connections or stand around spamming LFG!!!! Bottom line, my playtime is my time, and should not be dictated by the whims of other people. And that, is what is retarted about forced grouping.
And BTW, the genere of MMORPG does not default to mandatory grouping. Other MMORPGs that you are not forced to group are: Anarchy Online, Asheron's Call, Earth and Beyond (RIP), Eve online, etc etc.
So, we can take your MMORPG = grouping comments and toss them aside, they have no substance.
no, what is retarded is you desireing the game to be watered down to your level just because you cannot muster the social skills to find someone willing to help you. it's not hard. if the game was dumbed down to the point where YOU could solo everything, imagine what a competant pilot would do to the content? i would be screwed as would many others. missions that are challenging and fun for multiple people would now be utterly useless. instead of being 3/2/2/2 after one week of play I would be master and I would not be standing around looking for people to help with their missions.
what do you plan on doing after you master? pvp? you'll be owned by groups of rebels and you'll be FORCED to group up to survive.
do you plan on doing pve vs tier 5 spawns? to what end? captial ships? let me guess, you'd like to solo them?
you should stick to the sorosub, this is an mmo and that means MULTIPLAYER or if you insist on being the lone gunman you can do just fine with a tie/LN.
or maybe you should just learn how to solo the mission. it's possible, people on this board have done it and have given hints. i mean you want to be the uber solo artist, just do it, instead of asking for the game to tailor made to your impossibly low level.