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Thread: Petition: Keep the master pilot mission in Kessel!
Man.. you've got a crappy attitude. Do you go through life thinking like this? If the world was left to people like you.. nothing good in the world would ever be accomplished. Jeesh.. lighten up a little.
Not life just game realitiy, you may want to get help learning the difference.
And no. I don't buy your argument that it takes "10 people for every griefer to keep it under control." Where did you get that from? Is that your own experience? Have you even been to Kessel? I'll bet you haven't even been there because you've been brain washed into thinking that you'll get your ass waxed the minute you load in. There are a lot of people who go to Kessel who aren't even tier 3 yet. They go there to gain xp.
Because several people have already had one or two PvPers take down groups of 10, it may not be a hard fast rule but look at it this way. if you absolutly had to have 5 people just to do the mission, that is 5 people. Then let's say one on one for PvP patrol how many do you bring then? let's say 15, so now you have 20 people, 5 to do the mission and 15 to protect from PvP, what if the PvPers have a group of 20, now with 5 on the mission and 15 for PvP buffer you are at a disadvantage, how do you fix it since 20 is the group max? This is 1 month from now what you will need.
And why is that the griefers have a monopoly on 1 shot kills? Don't you think other people will be 1 shot killing the griefers? Besides.. I've heard that the 1 shot kills are an exploit of a known bug that I won't care mention.
Maybe, very likely even bgut what is the point? Chances are that most master missions within a month will be heavily gaurded by griefers. That vette is hard to not notice, so it isn't hard to camp it.
It's pissy whiners like you who would rather waste time here in the boards then actually getting in the game and doing something about it!
Ok so if we have any cristism we are whinners. So when your internet connection is down for hours, you never call in for repair, you never call customer service if an order you place gets screwed up, you never take back pants that don't fit, you never send back food that has stuff you hate on it. In short your a little conformist who will accept whatever is given to him, no compliants no nothing, your a robot.
Cry4Dawn wrote:/disagreeThough kesel isnt that bad, there are way to many griefers there and let a person complete all the hard work they have done. There are enough people camping the WP now to enter kesel. Half the time you are died before you screen loads...
JTL has been out for a little over a week and you expect to be a master pilot by now. Wanna be a master pilot? COMPLETE THE MISSIONS. Can't complete the missions? Then you aren't ace material. The end.
Polarbear868 wrote:
I think it should be a choice...you have to group with people and have a chance at being attacked while doing an easier mission, or group with people to do a harder mission in normal space.
It would be a nice compromise - not that I think the pro-PvP people here care at all about a thing like compromise.
Otaku-Convention wrote:
If it was to be choice, then you should get a reward, maybe a helmet or something that you would get for choosing to go into Kessel and completing the mission, a reward that you wouldn't get if you chose the easy route to Ace pilot.
I think we just summed it up right here. You pro forced PVP people honestly just want to feel l33t and consider getting master pilot a reward for griefing. You are not special, you just had more time and/or buddys with like minds. I cant wait for sony to fix this crap so we wont have to deal with forced PVP anymore. And they will fix it, or else the population in this game will dwendle since a lot of us have been waiting for this expansion for a long time, now we got it, and we dont deserve to be griefed.
Slarus wrote:
Don't do it!! Don't give in to the whiners devs!! Some people appreciate being forced to group!
Your just a griefer wanting your reward.
Hey, they don't care about forced grouping, they hate forced PvP on a PvE mission and I have to agree, your in the middle of your mission and your mildly damaged, you are about to face the last wave and finish the mission when someone swoops in on you with an undamaged ship and one shot kills you and instantly fails your mission.
Forced PvP is not good, Forced Grouping in a master pilot mission is fine with me as long as I cannot be griefed by some idiot out there for an ego boost.
I don't think we should confuse the current balance problems in JTLPvP with the concept or merit of having the master mission take placein a PvP zone. While I can agree that camping the entry points and killing players before they have a chanceto load in needs to be addressed, this does not mean that the mission should be moved out of Kessel. This is supposed to be a "twitch" based game, and therefore you should have to prove yourself against other players before you get your master pilot cert, rather than just figuring out a way tobeat the game AI. This makes the mastering the pilotskill more meaningful than the rest of JTL professions that can be ground out in X amount of time. I like that concept and hope the devs don't give in to the whiners.
ScReemB wrote:
/not signing
Lets be honest here people deliberately camping the hyperspace points into kessel as is happening on some servers now means the mission can't be completed because you are killed before you fully load into the zone. This isn't the fact people aren't ace material but are being griefed to prevent them being master pilots.I'm sure that more than a few of the people being stopped getting to master pilots might be better than some of the masters at present, but due to the griefers camping the entry to kessel for easy kills we may never find out.
So i'm sorry completing the missions under the present environment is impossible on some servers due to the griefers.
SCM T'R
Slarus wrote:
Man.. you've got a crappy attitude. Do you go through life thinking like this? If the world was left to people like you.. nothing good in the world would ever be accomplished. Jeesh.. lighten up a little.
Not life just game realitiy, you may want to get help learning the difference.
This is an MMORPG. It involves interacting with a player community, not playing by yourself. If someone killed someone in the wild west, you organized a gank squad and went after them. You don't sit around writing to Washington complaining about all the bandits "griefing" the townsfold. Grab a spine and do something about it.
And no. I don't buy your argument that it takes "10 people for every griefer to keep it under control." Where did you get that from? Is that your own experience? Have you even been to Kessel? I'll bet you haven't even been there because you've been brain washed into thinking that you'll get your ass waxed the minute you load in. There are a lot of people who go to Kessel who aren't even tier 3 yet. They go there to gain xp.
Because several people have already had one or two PvPers take down groups of 10, it may not be a hard fast rule but look at it this way. if you absolutly had to have 5 people just to do the mission, that is 5 people. Then let's say one on one for PvP patrol how many do you bring then? let's say 15, so now you have 20 people, 5 to do the mission and 15 to protect from PvP, what if the PvPers have a group of 20, now with 5 on the mission and 15 for PvP buffer you are at a disadvantage, how do you fix it since 20 is the group max? This is 1 month from now what you will need.
Don't confuse balance and problems in PvP with the idea of having to do the master mission in Kessel. Sure, some things need to be fixed in PvP, but that doesn't mean we should move the master mission out of Kessel. You seem to think that everyone in Kessel is just waiting for PvE players to load in and ruin their missions. Don't you think therewill be other people not in your group attackingopposite faction players?
And why is that the griefers have a monopoly on 1 shot kills? Don't you think other people will be 1 shot killing the griefers? Besides.. I've heard that the 1 shot kills are an exploit of a known bug that I won't care mention.
Maybe, very likely even bgut what is the point? Chances are that most master missions within a month will be heavily gaurded by griefers. That vette is hard to not notice, so it isn't hard to camp it.
Right. You're such a damn expert on this game aren't you? That's your opiniion mate. In my opinion rebel and imperial faction players will organize to "control" the Kessel system for whole periods at a time, in order to get other players in to do their missions. It will add a great amount of interaction, player co-operation, and strategy that is badly missed in SWG.
It's pissy whiners like you who would rather waste time here in the boards then actually getting in the game and doing something about it!
Ok so if we have any cristism we are whinners. So when your internet connection is down for hours, you never call in for repair, you never call customer service if an order you place gets screwed up, you never take back pants that don't fit, you never send back food that has stuff you hate on it. In short your a little conformist who will accept whatever is given to him, no compliants no nothing, your a robot.
I'm calling you a whiner, because instead of whining on the boards how this will ruin the game for all you PvE players, you could just choose to suck it up, get in the game, organize some players and do the mission.