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imnojedi wrote:

uh...dude...if your a Master, you shouldnt be flying around in the Nova...the Bwing is the strongest ship in the game. 4 blasters, and the heaviest of armor. use THAT before you complain about dieing quickly.

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That's pretty funny, actually. The B-wing is like a miniature Nova, has the maneuvering capability of an overweight hippo. Neither the B-wing or the Nova are actually good PVP ships.

As for the original topic: The multipassenger ships could do well with a boost. I think they should either give them a specific set of cert 11 components that are much tougher than fighter components, or add a mulitiplier to the MP ships shields, chassis, armor and component hitpoints values.

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rahzael wrote:

although it was a a non-space fps, BF1942-esque combat was what i expected in JTL...unfortunetly, due to high damage, and an odd little flight model, its nothing close to a tactical game.

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Me too. I expected dogfighting similar to what we saw inBF1942 orXvT. Not this merry-go-round-and-die-in-one-shot dogfighting.

Message Edited by NasherUK on 11-06-2004 06:24 AM

Im not even tier 2 yet, but i can see that i will be very agitated at this. I will be angry at the fact that i cant go to kessel without a master Pilot killing me and sending me tells of "OMFGi pwned j00!!!!1". I love flight sims, and i cant say im dissapointed at JTL itself, just the Devs' ignorance to the fact that the game they just released needs to be worked on, not the ground game. I respect all of the beta testers who tryed thier hardest to get it to change, without them, a lot of the problems we have now would be even worse.

There definatly needs to be some work, killing someone with less than 5 or 10 hits that is at your level is just wrong.

And besides that, NPC combat just sucks at the moment, same with PvP, the flight model is very bad, you have to actually miss your target in order to hit it on the server.. JTL needs lots of work.

Message Edited by Fry- on 11-06-2004 07:41 AM

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Jedi_Legend wrote:
I'm doing my tier 3 missions right now, and have read over all the posts about the master pilot "problem". Honestly, I can't wait to try it. Quit complaining just because it's a little hard. JTL is a completely different game than the ground one, so maybe not everybody is supposed to be able to master. I mean, don't you get tired of seeing master after master running by you on the ground? This is skill based, not just clicking. So quit complaining cause there's someone out there who can fly better than you, and practice so you can come back and kill him next time.

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Allright..
Im starting to get real tired of u!

EVERY thread about master pilot, u write -this exact message!-

This thread isnt even ABOUT the mission.. ITS ABOUT THE 1-2 HIT KILLS!

Having maybe a simple Tie with weak weapons take out a yt-1300 with high armor and shields IN 2 HITS?!?

Im not sure Han Solo woulda gone against that Tie in A New Hope, before they got to The Death Star!

Why dont u go -GET A LIFE-? Cause u sure aint got one!

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Ewoksean wrote:

I dont think its a joke...I think someone reverse engineered a massive weapon...

I just looted a 4000-4350 dmg weapon....And if you reverese engineered it...that thing is massive.

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No, it wasn't anything reverse engineered. I haven't gotten around to reverse engineering any of my componentry quite yet. The way I put out that kind of firepower, as I explained previously, is quite simple.

The TIE Advanced has two projectile slots. I've loaded mine with a pair of ~2k-3k guns. This was at the expense of having a booster or any missile weapons in my Advanced, but since I cruise at 1200+ I don't miss the booster all that much.

Furthermore, I run my Advanced with one flavor or another of Weapon Overload on most of the time. I don't know the exact modifier it provides, but since every volley from me is automaticallyat least4k-ish even before we discuss Weapon Overload, we can see where the massive damage in PvP comes from.

I've taken to /telling people while I'm in Kessel and Deep Space and warning them that if they get within 750m of me I will turn about and blast them, otherwise I will leave them alone. I'm out in those places trying to get the loot, trying to scout out the Corvette, andhelping guildies with their 30 kills missions.I'm trying to not engage in PvP if I can help it, butthe Forcehelp whatever Rebel player thinks I'm kidding. Just because I don't agree with how I can dish out damage doesn't mean I won't if they press me to it.

Thea Argray
Imperial Ace Pilot
Imperial Inquisition
Lowca Server

PVP in JTL doesn't seem to work. i was in kessal and my ship was destroyed in 1 hit before i could even see who shot me, this really should have been looked at in the beta, its a shame because the rest of the game is fun.