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Thread: Blame yourselvs for pvp gone from kessel

gera
Tue Nov 09, 2004 9:19 pm
#14






DorTaul wrote:





Antonnio wrote:

Since when was PvP removed from Kessel? I was there not even an hour ago and PvP was still working...


Is it just me? Or am I imagining something?


Oh, and on your point... I don't mind doing the PvP in Kessel, I just managed to do the mission and had little problems, I do totally agree with you that the Spawn Camper Killers are annoying and just because a player shoots somebody down in Kessel doesnt neccessarily mean they are there to grief somebody...


However, I have yet to do the Corvette Mission... (I need players in Ahazi willing to help me with this if possible)... and I probably should not be opening my mouth to praise PvP when it is entirely likely that I will be killed when I try and do the mission, lol.


But on the same note, I agree with you... But I seriously don't remember PvP being removed from Kessel... when did this happen?







In one week it will be removed from Kessel. Instead of creating a substitute for the players who want to fight other players fairly, they completely removed it from this zone.





Whoever wants to fight fairly, can also duel or can go into deep space or basically become 'overt' .. Are they hard to do?


But sorry, stopping griefers are almost impossible.





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RSQViper
Tue Nov 09, 2004 9:53 pm
#15






gera wrote:


But sorry, stopping griefers are almost impossible.

You assume all pvpers are greifers a small minority are





And we can all thank that 10 - 20% for ruining it for everybody.


Maybe the devs will fix it right and move the Master Mission at a later date, but I'll take this fix at least for now.



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a1davida1
Tue Nov 09, 2004 9:55 pm
#16

I and the vast majority of pvpers wont. They will have far more people quit over this so called "Fix" than they would over them keeping pvp how it was.



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SaleusCorwen
Tue Nov 09, 2004 9:56 pm
#17






Catmouth wrote:
WOW, I didn't think that it would be changed that fast. Only one week and people are mad that they can't master something. I mastered Privateer, the hard way. Soloed the 30 TIEs and lead the attack on the Corvette. After next Tuesday, I know that none of the new masters get any respect from the people who did it the right way. Now it won't take any skill to become a master, what a letdown. If the mechanics of damage and decay in space combat were changed to mirror the ground I would have thought that many of the people who are very vocal about complaining about this would go silent.






considering how new the game was.. those that did masterbefore really won't get any more respect. it took this long for the PvP zones to really fill up with high level players..



those that did the master missions first actually had it the easiest because there was as of yet anyone in the zone to gank them.... as more and more players reach the master pilot status the PvP zone of kessel would be harder and harder for a lower level pilot (Tier 4)to go in and not be killed in a PvP attack... this is an inevitability and i'm just glad they caught it only after a couple of weeks (the clear trend was towards ganking players trying to do their master mission, the trend would only get worse)and not months down the line..




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gera
Tue Nov 09, 2004 9:57 pm
#18






a1davida1 wrote:





gera wrote:

Whoever wants to fight fairly, can also duel or can go into deep space or basically become 'overt' .. Are they hard to do?

Duels are an insult to pvp, deep space is laggy and master only, and overts are few and far between even the ground pvp which was widely used relyed on the tef system
Rebel / Imperial does not matter, Every side has people loving PvP, even I was loving it once may be more than all of you. But things happen and as an oldage compared to many of you, I don't like to inhale others stinking breaths telling 'I pwned you cos I come to camp this place earlier'


But sorry, stopping griefers are almost impossible.

You assume all pvpers are greifers a small minority are
No. But people who wishes to kill people who does not want to PvP are not 'minority', dont fool yourself.










Message Edited by gera on 11-09-2004 08:58 PM




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a1davida1
Tue Nov 09, 2004 9:58 pm
#19

Umm hi, im a rebel gank squad, oh look theres an imperial gank squad. Now we fight. That is what would hav ehappened all pvp wouldnt center around the master mission it would center around other pvpers.



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Cutedge
Tue Nov 09, 2004 9:59 pm
#20






gera wrote:


Whoever wants to fight fairly, can also duel or can go into deep space or basically become 'overt' .. Are they hard to do?



I run my tier 4 duties overt so i get FP, and I have never been approached by anyone.




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gera
Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:02 pm
#21






Cutedge wrote:





gera wrote:


Whoever wants to fight fairly, can also duel or can go into deep space or basically become 'overt' .. Are they hard to do?



I run my tier 4 duties overt so i get FP, and I have never been approached by anyone.







We are talking about a vast zone with only 2 weeks game. Wait till rest comes. Oh and may be others were in Kessel waiting for people to try to do their missions. Oh yes, they are there, 5th try on my master mission. Killed by same person as 5th time while loading...


Message Edited by gera on 11-09-2004 09:03 PM




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Amuro0079
Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:09 pm
#22






Catmouth wrote:
WOW, I didn't think that it would be changed that fast. Only one week and people are mad that they can't master something. I mastered Privateer, the hard way. Soloed the 30 TIEs and lead the attack on the Corvette. After next Tuesday, I know that none of the new masters get any respect from the people who did it the right way. Now it won't take any skill to become a master, what a letdown. If the mechanics of damage and decay in space combat were changed to mirror the ground I would have thought that many of the people who are very vocal about complaining about this would go silent.



What makes you think we will respect people like you who did itthe hard way in the first place anyways? Don't think too highly of yourself!



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xWarlordx
Wed Nov 10, 2004 4:20 am
#23

I have to agree with points that have been made on both sides of this issue. One thing i will say that ppl who got master early had less troulbe than those doing it now. Less ppl in kessel at that time and much less chance of getting killed. Get killed doing vett no prob, get killed hunting no prob, get killed loading in from the ppl camping the spawn in point that i have a prob with. It takes no skill to camp and kill ppl just loading in. It takes even less skill when 10+ ppl are there doing it. I do not blame the ppl who kill other doing vett or hunting i do blame the griefers camping the spawn in spot. The ppl doing it are few and have ruined it for the many.
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