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Thread: The OFFICIAL Don't Ruin Kessel Petition
Slarus
Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:05 pm
#118
Thats right, you have the choice to either not pvp, or get master =).
That's not a choice, fortunately the Devs agreed that YOU don't dictate the style of play based on YOUR assuptions that Master Pilot is a reflection of skill and not mission advancement.
a1davida1
Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:09 pm
#119
That last post was rather foolish. I think a great idea would be a vote on the loadin to see what peoples real opinions are.
"What should be done with master mission?"
1. Fix PvP and leave it in Kessel where it will be a challenge, but not impossible and not grief bait.
2. Take it out of Kessel and leave Kessel pvp
3. Make Kessel PvE
a1davida1
Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:11 pm
#120
Ideal solutions would be 2 or 1, id prefer 1. I think alot of people would still cry about it, but maybe even the majority would go for option 1. I cannot see how a little pvp would hurt anyone......
Slarus
Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:16 pm
#121
Ideal solutions would be 2 or 1, id prefer 1. I think alot of people would still cry about it, but maybe even the majority would go for option 1. I cannot see how a little pvp would hurt anyone......
Option 2 is the best choice as it is choice for all, your option 1 would hurt every player who HATES PvP and it's alot more then you think.
The biggest group of players want to Master Pilot then PvP, the key is they want the choice to PvP and when to PvP, but not PvP to advance sorry your way to close minded that you want to Force people to do something not IN the mission for a title that is not skill based but Mission and XP based.
Most players want choice, challenge is in the eye of the mission taker, and few equate PvP with skill or care either way. Those 18 advancement boxes are not skill based they are XP and mission based, it has NOTHING to do with PvP.
Message Edited by Slarus on 11-11-2004 03:18 PM
DeathbySunburn
Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:17 pm
#122
/sign
Comon devs, I don wanna give up this game, its the only one im good at!
Slarus
Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:25 pm
#123
Comon devs, I don wanna give up this game, its the only one im good at!
Umm dont give up the game, continue to play it I dont see a problem if you like PvP go Overt till they fix the Kessel issue.
a1davida1
Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:28 pm
#124
How many times do we have to reiterate overtness is a lost cause, GIVE IT UP.
a1davida1
Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:29 pm
#125
I think the amoutn of people that truly hate pvp (non flawed 1 shot kill zone camping pvp) is alot smaller than you think, a small minority.
Slarus
Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:32 pm
#126
I think the amoutn of people that truly hate pvp (non flawed 1 shot kill zone camping pvp) is alot smaller than you think, a small minority.
That could be debated, but the amount of people who care about the real issue being forced to PvP on the master mission is higher then you think.
there are PvPers who want to be able to choose WHEN they PvP, and PvEers who dont want to PvP, and PvEers who want to CHOOSE WHEN to PvP.
The Master mission being in a PvP zone breaks consensual PvP, and the majority of the players wanted that changed.
Azino
Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:44 pm
#127
/sign
If you don't want to PvP then you don't deserve to be afighterace. Please don't nerf Kessel. Minorities have a loud voice but they're still minorities.
Slarus
Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:49 pm
#128
If you don't want to PvP then you don't deserve to be afighterace. Please don't nerf Kessel. Minorities have a loud voice but they're still minorities.
1 there is no "Fighter Ace" title
2. Ace means master pilot, it means you completed the PvE tasks, it does not require you to be shot at or shoot at any Player it only was in a PvP zone. You did not have to kill any players to get it.
3. Master Pilot is not a PvP title it never was it never will.
4. PvP is optional the Devs told us that from day one, and now they are living up to that.
Kessel should be a PvP zone, but the master missionis not be subject to PvP.
People who want to CHOOSE to PvP or not and dont want to be forced into PvP to complete an advancement mission, those people are the majority.
Message Edited by Slarus on 11-11-2004 03:50 PM
Azino
Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:52 pm
#129
IRL an Ace is someone who has won dog fights against 5 other pilots. You don't deserve this title if you're not willing to earn it.
slave138
Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:53 pm
#130
FredP wrote:
EMC2 wrote:
Head for Deep Space if you want PvP.
Why don't you head to X-Wing vs TIE Fighter is you want PvE? It cuts both ways. This kind of thinking is not the solution but only a reaffirmation of the problem.
No, it doesn't cut both ways and was a stupid comment. One person suggested an enviornment within the game where PvPers can play the way they would like to. You, on the other hand, come in with the tired, old "go play ...[insert game name here]..." reply. Sure, it might not be the ideal setup for the PvP players, but it is an option that doesn't involve playing a different game.