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Thread: PVP Use Good ships or crappy ones?

Tumbler2002
Mon Nov 08, 2004 11:05 am
#1

The more I read about PVP the more it sounds like armor and shields make no difference at all, if someone gets one hit on you they will likely get 2 and then it's over.

So is there any point in usings ships like the tie advanced/oppressor when you can just strap a lvl 7-9 blaster on a tie fighter with no armor or shields and go around killing people? You are going to die in one hit anyway right? Once you make master pilot, is there any reason to use those ships in pvp?
Vechaljian
Mon Nov 08, 2004 11:11 am
#2

I use a Scyk with a engine, reactor, capacitor and some really good Blasters, Once Its completely destroyed I pick up another for 4-5k Then have it deeded 10k, then reequip or replace components and go back at it. so to answer your question I use the cheapest chassis possible, no point in Messing up a 200-400k cost chassis.
Tumbler2002
Mon Nov 08, 2004 11:24 am
#3

And you are not at a huge disadvantage to other ships? You can still kill anyone, a tie advanced or tie fighter in same amount of shots?
Vechaljian
Mon Nov 08, 2004 11:28 am
#4

doesn't make a diff. 1-2 shots your dead. 1-2 shots they are dead, whom ever see and shots first wins, so why tear up a expensive ship, My syck Is hella fast and turns on a dime. so if I can Dodge and survive and turn on them, Then they are done.
Tumbler2002
Mon Nov 08, 2004 11:58 am
#5

I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry... It seems to be a good thing in that a player with a fast manueverable ship can dominate in PvP but it doesn't seem to fit. Seems like kessel will be filled with Tier 4/5 ships doing missions and PvP'rs in low level ships trying to kill them. The master pilots or pilots in lower level ships have nothing to lose. No permanent affects for dieing besides the disposable equipment degrading. On the other hand someone in a tier 4/master ship doing a master level mission/or just helping, will see his expensive ship degrade and will make all the trouble of grouping and going to do the mission disappear when someone takes him out in 2 shots.

Should be interesting if I ever get there. Tier 4 Gunboat in the way atm.
Vechaljian
Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:10 pm
#6

It exactly what Happen'd to me I enjoy Pvp, I don't Mind the only skill really required is to just be aware of your surroundings. and i don't mind the battle being over in a Blink of a eye. But when you sink 500k into a ship to watch it go up in smoke due to load killing then I mind, So My fix was why take a risk with your Nice Ship. when you can grab a disposible ship, and if You don't survive Loading Then you can Just laugh about it and say Oh well. If they would make the wear and tear on the ships lesser i wouldn't care, but cost on teir 3-5 ships make pvp no fun. Just Makes me worry That I am gonna have to re earn all That Money and buy another. I come to Play and have fun, not Looking for a second job.
Cobra2468
Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:19 pm
#7


pvp needs something like a 75% damage reduction and multipassenger ships need to get a bonus to there shields and armor, like +30% or something. im sure more ppl would be willing to pvp if degredation was removed if you die in pvp. ide love to go into deep space or kessel with my decimator but ive puta fewmillinto it and with the way pvp is right now it would be throwing it away.

Message Edited by Cobra2468 on 11-08-2004 11:20 AM

Ducimus
Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:45 pm
#8

>>
when you can grab a disposible ship, and if You don't survive Loading Then you can Just laugh about it and say Oh well.
>>

Survive loading? Let me guess. Theres a static entry point into kessel, and they sit there and camp it?

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Darksabre6
Mon Nov 08, 2004 2:00 pm
#9






Thatguyfubu wrote:





Cobra2468 wrote:


pvp needs something like a 75% damage reduction and multipassenger ships need to get a bonus to there shields and armor, like +30% or something. im sure more ppl would be willing to pvp if degredation was removed if you die in pvp. ide love to go into deep space or kessel with my decimator but ive puta fewmillinto it and with the way pvp is right now it would be throwing it away.

Message Edited by Cobra2468 on 11-08-2004 11:20 AM





No nerfing please. No reductions no bonuses. What they should do is make it so that low level ships can't use high level parts. Think about it. They made you go up the levels evenly for a reason. They should make it so that a lvl 1 ship should not be allowed to equip anything higher then lvl 3. Level 2 ships lvl 5 components. That way if you want those high level weapons you need a higher level ship. Otherwise then I will keep holding on to my z95 chassis for PvP and there will never be a point to the A-Wing.



No no no no. Once you do that, everyone will use the same ship. I want uniqueness, unlike the ground game where everyone wears the same armor and uses the same weapon. If you want to keep using your Z-95, I think that's awesome as it adds variety to the space game.





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Renquist
Mon Nov 08, 2004 2:02 pm
#10

I just think making that restriction just turns certain ships into the composite of space. More variety is better



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Ducimus
Mon Nov 08, 2004 2:04 pm
#11

>>No nerfing please. No reductions no bonuses. What they should do is make



Ahh no what they should do is:

1.) randomize entry into kessel so you can't be spawn camped.

2.) Reduce PvP damage by an undetermined percentage. 25% maybe not enough, 75% may make fights stuipdly long.. theres a balance here.

Something is VERY WRONG if you can take a 12K mass starter ship and be able to shoot down advanced craft that far outweigh it in 1 or 2 hits.



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Thatguyfubu
Mon Nov 08, 2004 2:08 pm
#12

I never thought about that. I hate composite for this reason. Hmmm....then how could they make a benefit for going to a higher end ship instead of everyone flying around with z95 or TIEs with huge guns. PLEASE someone give me a reason to use an A-Wing thats all I really want.





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Vechaljian
Mon Nov 08, 2004 2:38 pm
#13

Easy.lower or eliminate the amount your ship degrades, taking the wounding to your charactor should be enough consequence. well Thats Not true either, Once the Prices come down Enough to where Fly a better chassis won't cost you a fortune Then it wouldn't be so bad.
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