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Thread: For all the people that's enraged that Kessel is becoming PvE

BlackEdge
Wed Nov 10, 2004 2:26 am
#1

Just want to say one thing, and that it's a temporary thing. I'm sure they'll move the master missions to another zone, but that will take time. Till then they'll make the kessel a PvE zone temporarily.


While it does suck losing a pvp zone (when there were only 2 to begin with), you guys have to look at it in the longrun. People who's furious about this are the ones that actually have the tendency to pvp there and actually attack people doing their missions. That's pretty unfair, as all it does is cause disruption.


Anyways, like I said, just hold on for a bit, I'm sure it's a temporary thing till they move it to another location.



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stageonebrian
Wed Nov 10, 2004 4:34 am
#2

Plus PVP in kessel was lame anyways... I could attack my own group members because we were all privateer, not to mention the hate tells you got for killing anyone anyways.



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SkorpiusGaidin
Wed Nov 10, 2004 4:59 am
#3

Ha no one cares!



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LaryLizard
Wed Nov 10, 2004 5:07 am
#4

Well I thought Kessel was quite fun, me and 3 buddies were ganging up on some rebel bwing ... he had missiles and crap so it was quite fun, we killed him about 3 times and he killed one of us once.



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Trexmaster
Wed Nov 10, 2004 6:20 am
#5



LaryLizard wrote:
Well I thought Kessel was quite fun, me and 3 buddies were ganging up on some rebel bwing ... he had missiles and crap so it was quite fun, we killed him about 3 times and he killed one of us once.





I hope you don't seriously think this was fun...



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Eeloominath
Wed Nov 10, 2004 6:23 am
#6


Trexmaster wrote:


LaryLizard wrote:
Well I thought Kessel was quite fun, me and 3 buddies were ganging up on some rebel bwing ... he had missiles and crap so it was quite fun, we killed him about 3 times and he killed one of us once.





I hope you don't seriously think this was fun...



I dont seriously think he thinks.

People whining about the PvP removal are in majority the root cause for the change.
Coran_Sienar
Wed Nov 10, 2004 6:39 am
#7



Am I the only pilot who asked potential prey, "Pardon me, but are you PvPing or are you on the Corvette Mission?" before attacking?


PvP in Kessel is about to be nerfed because of the outcry from the PvE people becausesome gankersare too frickin inconsiderate. Thanks a lot, you jerks.



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Xconxors
Wed Nov 10, 2004 6:55 am
#8

Look at it this way guys. Now all 6 PvP'ers won't be thinned out amoungst 2 locations. You can shoot each other all day long and no-one wil hate your guts for it.



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ScReemB
Wed Nov 10, 2004 7:12 am
#9

The other reasons are



  • Camping of hyperspace point into kessel and killing people before they can fully load in

  • The damage balance in pvp being so silly that it has become instagib in space and it isn't down to the skill of the player but who has the fastest ship and biggest gun

  • Even when players change ship name to master-mission-no-pvp some players still attacked and when asked why they said it was funny

  • Seestatement above re the attitude of a small minority of pvpers towards others.

The pvpers have no one to blame but this small inconsiderate minority who went out of there way to simply grief people for their fun. This lead to the outcry in the live forums. We had also raised these issues during the beta as problems that may occurwhen the game went live.


We had also asked in many posts in the beta to move the final missions out of Kessel as some of us could also see that if it got left to the live game we would see exactly whats happening here. With insults flying back and forwards between both groups and one group being blamed.


I mainly pve at the present time as im slowly working my way to my master rank in pilot and once i reach master rank i will be looking to pvp, i have always had this goal in mind. I would rather they have moved the mission out of the kessel zone and kept it as a pvp area but due to the actions of a small minority of players camping the hyperspace point into kessel for easy kills this change would have happened sooner or later.


So you should ask the pvperswho decided to camp the entry point for easy kills, who ignored the no-pvp title of a ship and killed it for fun and said when asked they did it because they thought it was funny. If they are happy that their actions have caused this change to happen? As the outcry from the players who play for fun and don't like pvp came from these incidents happening to them over and over again.


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Coran_Sienar
Wed Nov 10, 2004 7:15 am
#10

If that's the case, then I hope they increase the incidence of loot drops and loot quality in Deep Space so that people will have a real reason to go to a PvP zone.



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truewildman
Wed Nov 10, 2004 7:18 am
#11






Coran_Sienar wrote:



Am I the only pilot who asked potential prey, "Pardon me, but are you PvPing or are you on the Corvette Mission?" before attacking?


PvP in Kessel is about to be nerfed because of the outcry from the PvE people becausesome gankersare too frickin inconsiderate. Thanks a lot, you jerks.





Yep. I've called truce many times. I wanted those people to remember me when it was my turn to do the mission. That I left them alone.


I was in Kessel for the AI, but I did retaliate when attacked. Sometimes I won, sometimes I didn't.


But, more often than not, a truce was called and abided by.


Sad. Thanks alot, griefers...







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truewildman
Wed Nov 10, 2004 7:20 am
#12






Xconxors wrote:

Look at it this way guys. Now all 6 PvP'ers won't be thinned out amoungst 2 locations. You can shoot each other all day long and no-one wil hate your guts for it.






Please, please stop stereo-typing!!!! That is narrow-minded and bigotry. Just stop it.





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meeuki
Wed Nov 10, 2004 7:22 am
#13

i'm furious and i have never killed someone doing a mission there.

i'm furious and i've never killed someone loading there.

hey, way to generalize though. let me try. people who whine about pvp in kessel are idiots. oops, see how generalizing works?

there's two zones where you can find reliable pvp. PVP IS THE ONLY ENDGAME IN JTL AS EVERYTHING ELSE'S AI IS DISGUSTING AND I CAN KILL IT WITH A TIE/LN. let's get somethign straight, i'm not going to drop imperial pilot and grind up neutral pilot just for the lack of a reliable endgame. i'm not going to content myself with holding hands and flying in formation. i want to compete.

there's now ONE place to reliably do that (going overt is not reliable as it amounts to crusing for hours looking for random encounters, there is no contested area in space aside from deep space and kessel)

and you know what? i can't access that one place because my 4th tier 4 mission is bugged. i've solo'd it, but i cannot progress because of a bug. is that bug fixed on tuesday? no. thus until it's fixed or i get lucky, i'm prevented from taking part in pvp.

and you don't even know if it's temporary. nobody does, i'm sure bounty hunter bugs were freaking supposed to be temporary too.



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