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Thread: Tag team Spawn Campers....I've had enough.
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BobaFettish
Sat Jan 29, 2005 4:18 am
#1
I'm just too tired to keep trying tp beat these guys that Camp Nyax & the Borgle cave etc..., 24/7.
Atleast 4 times in the last month i have tried to reason with these groups to no avail..., i justget the same reaction everytime....,
"You are not Permitted here, & must go to our Faction Vendor to Buy these Items..."!!
These Guys cannot be beaten, they are equipped with the Best Tapes, "The very ones they looted for free" & use their 1 hit tactics in tag teams, to ensure that "No-body,......., but no-body else can get them", unless they buy them through them at impossible prices.
DEV's Please Put a timer on these Spawn Placesor startKicking These Worthless, Opportunitsic Scumbags from the game, so that everyone can have a go.
Or mabe even Start having the other NPC's that carry them, Drop them at a faster rate, & also put them onLower Level NPC's & make the damn things worthless, so thet these guys don't have a reason to camp.
Frankly, I'm sick of goint to nearly any place in this game to "Acctually" Play the game, Only to find the spot Perma Camped by some little Guild Geek & his Buds.
GeneralKaine
Sat Jan 29, 2005 5:08 am
#2
/agree... partially
i dont like afk killers at spawns and i dont like campers at spawns for things like skill tapes etc that all players would like the opportunity to loot. however, everyone plays the game diffently and i dont think there is a way to control this that would suit all players.
i dont spawn camp or afk kill but avoid areas where people do, which might mean i miss out on some good loot, but also means im not frustrated while playing and thus enjoy the game experience.
i dont like afk killers at spawns and i dont like campers at spawns for things like skill tapes etc that all players would like the opportunity to loot. however, everyone plays the game diffently and i dont think there is a way to control this that would suit all players.
i dont spawn camp or afk kill but avoid areas where people do, which might mean i miss out on some good loot, but also means im not frustrated while playing and thus enjoy the game experience.
SweenyTod
Sat Jan 29, 2005 5:16 am
#3
Although I think things like Nyax/Elders/Acklay should be dropping some of the most valuable loot..I do however disagree on the new spawn rate.. its crazy, today for example I thought i'd go take a look at Nyax, I had never seen him before and never tried because I was told he was camped anyways, when I got there I was shocked to see the amount of people with cycle macros just sitting there.. pathetic imo.
Message Edited by SweenyTod on 01-29-2005 04:16 AM
Jessian
Sat Jan 29, 2005 5:22 am
#4
BobaFettish wrote:I'm just too tired to keep trying tp beat these guys that Camp Nyax & the Borgle cave etc..., 24/7.Atleast 4 times in the last month i have tried to reason with these groups to no avail..., i justget the same reaction everytime....,"You are not Permitted here, & must go to our Faction Vendor to Buy these Items..."!!These Guys cannot be beaten, they are equipped with the Best Tapes, "The very ones they looted for free" & use their 1 hit tactics in tag teams, to ensure that "No-body,......., but no-body else can get them", unless they buy them through them at impossible prices.DEV's Please Put a timer on these Spawn Places or start Kicking These Worthless, Opportunitsic Scumbags from the game, so that everyone can have a go.Or mabe even Start having the other NPC's that carry them, Drop them at a faster rate, & also put them on Lower Level NPC's & make the damn things worthless, so thet these guys don't have a reason to camp.Frankly, I'm sick of goint to nearly any place in this game to "Acctually" Play the game, Only to find the spot Perma Camped by some little Guild Geek & his Buds.
I thought it was forbidden to camp out these dungeons. just take their names, report them.
keep doing it until something is done. ALT+TAB and open up chat. speak to CSRs, GET them to go into the game to see this for themselves. then they can do something.
but alas, i bet nothing gets done. ;p
Liander
Sat Jan 29, 2005 8:14 am
#5
OK...here we go again...How many times will I have to post on the Loot Forums and get 1 *'d to make you people understand this. NYAX IS THE ONLY GOOD PLACE FOR LOOT!!!!!! Elders are unreliable and who really wants a interwoven bone armor schematic from the Acklay? Now. You going in there and taking names of players that are at a OPEN POI for all to be at won't get you anywhere. I don't afk macro loot. Most of the peopleI know don't. Go report the people that are afk killing meatlumps to level their profession while they sleep. I grinded ALL my professions at the keyboard, and I do my killing and looting there too. If they are afk...wait for their buffs to run out and get killed by Nyax. Then have a good time. I'm sorry, but I am tired of hearing all you people cry because people are at a POI that is NOT OWNED by anyone. So get a group up and go to work. Don't get mad at people because they spent time and probably a great deal of money to get the best weapons and tapes to be able to outdamage a small group. So don't come here and cry because you want the easy way. Go playSuper Mario Brosif you want to be left alone and go to places where you don't see anyone else.
JoleneArcher
Sat Jan 29, 2005 8:19 am
#6
Maybe include a timer that you can loot these specific Mobs (Acklay, Nyax) only once or twice a day. Would give other players a fair chance.
Skilgannon
Sat Jan 29, 2005 8:35 am
#7
Liander wrote:
OK...here we go again...How many times will I have to post on the Loot Forums and get 1 *'d to make you people understand this. NYAX IS THE ONLY GOOD PLACE FOR LOOT!!!!!! Elders are unreliable and who really wants a interwoven bone armor schematic from the Acklay? Now. You going in there and taking names of players that are at a OPEN POI for all to be at won't get you anywhere. I don't afk macro loot. Most of the peopleI know don't. Go report the people that are afk killing meatlumps to level their profession while they sleep. I grinded ALL my professions at the keyboard, and I do my killing and looting there too. If they are afk...wait for their buffs to run out and get killed by Nyax. Then have a good time. I'm sorry, but I am tired of hearing all you people cry because people are at a POI that is NOT OWNED by anyone. So get a group up and go to work. Don't get mad at people because they spent time and probably a great deal of money to get the best weapons and tapes to be able to outdamage a small group. So don't come here and cry because you want the easy way. Go playSuper Mario Brosif you want to be left alone and go to places where you don't see anyone else.
/agree
Mad-Hatter
Sat Jan 29, 2005 8:37 am
#8
JoleneArcher wrote:
Maybe include a timer that you can loot these specific Mobs (Acklay, Nyax) only once or twice a day. Would give other players a fair chance.
While this sounds like a good idea, I don't see how they could implement this. I'm not a programmer so I don't know how all the coding works, but it seems to me that it would take a GREAT deal of work to make something only lootable once or twice a day per person. Even still with the servers not shutting down everyday, I could see this just end up being another bug added tothelong list of already existing bugs. What they really need is more then just 1 or 2 places in the game that drop item's like these do. On smaller galaxies, you can even see the impact, because there is only a couple places to actually get great loot from. I couldn't imagine the amount of people who are probably camping these places on the hugely populated galaxies. I don't complain, I just don't bother, I know I can't get the loot rights, and I except that.
What could fix something like this......hmmm.....instances anyone?
JoleneArcher
Sat Jan 29, 2005 8:44 am
#9
More good places would be an idea. I killed Mordran and the NPCs with him yesterday and what did i get: Several Composite Armor parts with 20% Resistance. In times with 80% Composite this is crap. And this is the problem with many places, you find just crap there.
Message Edited by JoleneArcher on 01-29-2005 03:45 PM
Mad-Hatter
Sat Jan 29, 2005 8:49 am
#10
On a side note, the AFK thing has got to stop. Being able to kill something that loots great items while being AFK, is completely wrong, and I'mtotally against this. I've played my share of MMORPG's, and a few of them had ways that you could go AFK and increase your skills, but this was usually bannable if reported. But since all of the macros available to us let us do things like this, there isn't really anything we can do about it until they decide to either get rid of the recursive macros or fix the way they work. For the rest of them that I have played, there was no such thing as killing things while AFK, unless it was just something of a lower level aggroing you and you auto-attack them to death(even still you couldn't get the loot without the use of 3rd party programs).
It pisses me off to no end seeing someone AFK at a spawn, but really, they could just put the AFK tag up to be left alone, me being a soloist myself, I do it on occassion to keep people from bugging me. But still, killing things while AFK is NOT THE PROBLEM. The problem is that you can LOOT them while your AFK.
As of now, If I see someone camping a spawn while AFK, big deal, it's been in the game for so long that I don't care anymore. But if I were to have just bought the game and loaded into say Mos Eisley, and decided to try my hand at some of the static NPC spawns and saw someone killing things while being AFK and being able to loot them................well I would probably just say this game looks too easy and would quit.
Mad-Hatter
Sat Jan 29, 2005 8:57 am
#11
JoleneArcher wrote:
More good places would be an idea. I killed Mordran and the NPCs with him yesterday and what did i get: Several Composite Armor parts with 20% Resistance. In times with 80% Composite this is crap. And this is the problem with many places, you find just crap there.
Message Edited by JoleneArcher on 01-29-2005 03:45 PM
Yep, I know how you feel. They need to improve the loot that everything drops, without going overboard. Personally? The Nyax spawn is out of hand. When they decreased his timer they should have decreased the type of loot he can drop. It's just a little silly to me.
I'm not asking for everything to drop awesome loot left and right, I already ranted about the drop rates of things already. This game has been easy mode for far too long, and the drop rate increase just made it that much easier. They need a way to increase the usefulness of loot without making it impossible for the casual player to find, and without it being to easy for the powergamer to horde.
The type of lootable weapons and armor that drop on most occassions is a complete joke, but they can't just make everything too easy to find, or the fun goes away. What theydo need is to increase the stats on most looted items to make themuseful without making craftable items useless.
Liander
Sat Jan 29, 2005 9:00 am
#12
Mad-Hatter wrote:
On a side note, the AFK thing has got to stop. Being able to kill something that loots great items while being AFK, is completely wrong, and I'mtotally against this. I've played my share of MMORPG's, and a few of them had ways that you could go AFK and increase your skills, but this was usually bannable if reported. But since all of the macros available to us let us do things like this, there isn't really anything we can do about it until they decide to either get rid of the recursive macros or fix the way they work. For the rest of them that I have played, there was no such thing as killing things while AFK, unless it was just something of a lower level aggroing you and you auto-attack them to death(even still you couldn't get the loot without the use of 3rd party programs).
It pisses me off to no end seeing someone AFK at a spawn, but really, they could just put the AFK tag up to be left alone, me being a soloist myself, I do it on occassion to keep people from bugging me. But still, killing things while AFK is NOT THE PROBLEM. The problem is that you can LOOT them while your AFK.
As of now, If I see someone camping a spawn while AFK, big deal, it's been in the game for so long that I don't care anymore. But if I were to have just bought the game and loaded into say Mos Eisley, and decided to try my hand at some of the static NPC spawns and saw someone killing things while being AFK and being able to loot them................well I would probably just say this game looks too easy and would quit.
yes...and eventually when the inventory gets full...the spawn dies because you aren't looting anymore. BUT...the people that these afk'ers are camping maybe drop something worth having 1 out of 10000 times. you can find static spawns at almost every city...game generated that is. so just find one if you really want to beat up on those...i do it unbuffed from time to time just to play around and get away from buff lines and such.
Mad-Hatter
Sat Jan 29, 2005 9:07 am
#13
Liander wrote:
Mad-Hatter wrote:
On a side note, the AFK thing has got to stop. Being able to kill something that loots great items while being AFK, is completely wrong, and I'mtotally against this. I've played my share of MMORPG's, and a few of them had ways that you could go AFK and increase your skills, but this was usually bannable if reported. But since all of the macros available to us let us do things like this, there isn't really anything we can do about it until they decide to either get rid of the recursive macros or fix the way they work. For the rest of them that I have played, there was no such thing as killing things while AFK, unless it was just something of a lower level aggroing you and you auto-attack them to death(even still you couldn't get the loot without the use of 3rd party programs).
It pisses me off to no end seeing someone AFK at a spawn, but really, they could just put the AFK tag up to be left alone, me being a soloist myself, I do it on occassion to keep people from bugging me. But still, killing things while AFK is NOT THE PROBLEM. The problem is that you can LOOT them while your AFK.
As of now, If I see someone camping a spawn while AFK, big deal, it's been in the game for so long that I don't care anymore. But if I were to have just bought the game and loaded into say Mos Eisley, and decided to try my hand at some of the static NPC spawns and saw someone killing things while being AFK and being able to loot them................well I would probably just say this game looks too easy and would quit.
yes...and eventually when the inventory gets full...the spawn dies because you aren't looting anymore. BUT...the people that these afk'ers are camping maybe drop something worth having 1 out of 10000 times. you can find static spawns at almost every city...game generated that is. so just find one if you really want to beat up on those...i do it unbuffed from time to time just to play around and get away from buff lines and such.
I do the same things
, sometimes when Idon't have alot of time to play I just put onmy low encumbrance armor and whack away at some of the static spawnsunbuffed. But if you have read the recentTest center notes you will see that they are increasing the inventory size, whichis just helping AFK campers out. I personally don't care, I know that almost everything they find is junk, it's just the fact that we do have people who can kill and loot whileAFK, that doesn't have any place in an MMORPG at all. But I have faith andthink a fix is just around the corner.
After reading the test center notes just recently, my jawliterally dropped.Someone is working the whippretty good at Sony right now. Things are changing, mostly for the better.
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