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Thread: Tag team Spawn Campers....I've had enough.

Alristico
Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:01 am
#79

let me just remind you guys what ive already said in this thread. Nyax will no longer be an uber loot drop in a month or two. Check your servers trade forums. The SEA sales have already increased dramatically.Its quite possible that the devs are doing this todecrease the need forthis particularstatic spawn and fixing the camping problem.



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StealthTiger234
Mon Jan 31, 2005 11:46 am
#80

Thats not competition. Thats the worse excuse i've ever heard. Spawn camping a competition HA! So your saying being an uber dork who spends every wakeing minute playing SWG and then wh0res millions of credits is some kind of athlete?



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Alristico
Mon Jan 31, 2005 11:58 am
#81






StealthTiger234 wrote:
Thats not competition. Thats the worse excuse i've ever heard. Spawn camping a competition HA! So your saying being an uber dork who spends every wakeing minute playing SWG and then wh0res millions of credits is some kind of athlete?





I feel sorry for someone so uneducated that they think competition only extends to athletics.



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Sifer2
Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:48 pm
#82

I have to agree with people saying its a problem. PvE was never an should never really be a competetive sport in my opinion. If the system heaviliy encourages competition in PvE then it needs to be changed. Because not everyone enjoys PvP activities. Maybe someone just wants to experience going through a dungeon an killing the boss once for enjoyment an maybe getting some nice loot. The way the system is currently the number of mobs that drop desirable loot can be counted on one hand almost. An its insanse that entire servers should have to share these things. I personally think the best solution is making the most desirable loot drop off non-static mobs. Boss mobs can still exist an drop nice loot but whatever they drop should always be attainable elsewhere. Or at least something similar or better than what that boss mob drops. An camping in particular needs to go. Personally I think the CU will help out in this area. People wont be able to camp a dungeon by themself that easily. Of course camping will still happen so perhaps other options should be looked at. Things like a dungeon automatically bootinga person after a certain amount of time. Or maybe mobs start spawning stronger than normal until the campers are killed then reset to normal after they are gone. We know that code exists since the Tusken Fort used it.





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Seeaywhydeeeee
Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:59 pm
#83

For all of you who've suggested reporting the offending campers, let me say that I've tried this. The spatial chat was included and I clearly explained the situation (the short version being that I went into the dungeon, saw 2 people camping it, spoke politely with them, asked if it'd be possible to just get one kill in, and was refused with the reply, "It's kind of hard to play the odds if we don't kill it every time.")

The response I received was pretty appalling. The CSR told me that spawn camping was, in fact, allowed and that if I wanted the looting rights, my only option would be to outdamage the other players. For all of you that have repeatedly said that camping was against the rules, you've left me confused. It's entirely possible (and probable) that I encountered an incompetent CSR, but I was actually infuriated. All of this camping honestly sounds like griefing with nicer name. The CSR's aren't doing anything about it, yet the devs are constantly trying to find ways of reaching some sort of equilibrium in terms of the amounts of credits floating around the galaxy. So, really, you have the CSR's allowing people to hoard loot, thereby amassing obscene amounts of credts, and the devs trying to implement things to disperse these very same credits that all of the same people continue to amass. Score one for the CSR's. They're definitely winning. Their unwillingness to actually enforce the rules that were set forth is truly, truly disgusting.
Alristico
Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:53 pm
#84






Nnekk wrote:





Alristico wrote:



if casual gamers were able to get the rewards of a power gamer then this game would just be an elaborate chat room. It sucks for people who work alot or have alot of other obligations but its stupid to ask for equal reward without equal effort.


Teams are there to compete with other teams. Its the natural progression of a static spawn with uber loot and extremely logical. I don't know why you can't understand this.








And ticket scalpers are there to compete with ticket scalpers. I understand the reason why you team up. It does not mean that it is right and or justified to do so. The end does not always justify the means.


your analogy is seriously lacking.Ticket scalperspenalize people by buying out whole venues withing minutesoftickets going on sale so the individual customers usually have no choice but to pay themarkup value from brokers. In SWG everone has the option to grind the appropriot template and aquiregood equipment to be able to compete at the nyax spawn. The only inequality is casual gaming and individual ability to make enough credits to buys uberweapons and join a good group. There nothing unfair about this though.Its very clear that you want the reward without putting in the effort. Get your own team or go loot other crap.


Again, it is not beyond my comprehension to see and know about why you do what you do and why you feel it is justified. It's just thatI completely disagree with your notion that it is strictly a competion for the best loot in the game. Your idea of team play makes it unfair for those that cannot be a part of a team. Your idea of team play makes it so that the team with the most players at a loot point will always trump others. The casual gamer has no chance against the "gangs". The gangs usually work through shear numbers and sometimes even use intimidation through their remarks thatusually tell others that the loot to be had is theirs and only theirs and it will be that way 24/7 if they choose it to be so. That's the sad part.


The casual gamer has no business getting the rewards of the powergamer. Its like a dishwasher getting paid a brain surgeon's salary, sorta communistic. Again, I don't know how many times i have to say this but if you want the ultimate rewards then be prepared to put in the appropriate effort to attain them.


No one is asking for equal reward; they just want a chance to go after some loot. Just like my niece would love to have a chance to buy a Britney Spears concert ticket at face value with her measley allowance; but, there's usually a team of "ticket brokers" who prevent that from happening.


Unlike buying large venue tickets at face value, everyone has a chance to kill nyax. Grind rifleman, swordsman or jedi, buy million dollar equipment and join a good guild or group and try out damaging others. Otherwise go play with meatlumps or whatever but don't complain that you're a casual gamer.








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Alristico
Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:00 pm
#85






StealthTiger234 wrote:





Alristico wrote:





StealthTiger234 wrote:
Thats not competition. Thats the worse excuse i've ever heard. Spawn camping a competition HA! So your saying being an uber dork who spends every wakeing minute playing SWG and then wh0res millions of credits is some kind of athlete?





I feel sorry for someone so uneducated that they think competition only extends to athletics.




ok. Someone in a competition any competition would be considered to be an athlete in that field. An athlete doesn't have to play football or basketball to be one.

So in the end spawn campers are just dorks not athletes in this demented "competition" you think spawn camping is.




The definition of "athlete":


Athlete =A person possessing the natural or acquired traits, such as strength, agility, and endurance, that are necessary for physical exercise or sports, especially those performed in competitive contexts.


I hope english is not your native language cause I gotta tell ya, what you've said is unbelievable. You don't have to be an athlete to be a competitor. Chess players compete against each other. Pepsi and Coke compete against each other. Go back to school and stop thinking that you deserve something without puting in the appropriate effort.





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Alristico
Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:07 pm
#86






Puertoriqueno wrote:

I have reported this thread to the CSR's. You guys should learn how to discuss problems without insulting each other.






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ObiQuixote
Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:16 pm
#87


Puertoriqueno wrote:
I have reported this thread to the CSR's. You guys should learn how to discuss problems without insulting each other.



Since we’ve devolved down to semantics, wouldn’t you report this thread to a moderator and not a CSR? Regardless of whether they are athletes or competitors of course.

Just curious.

Liander
Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:26 pm
#88

true...csr's don't monitor forums...not what they are there for





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ObiQuixote
Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:41 pm
#89

Ya their job is to try and explain why they can't replace things that disappear.


J/k, Actually I’ve always had good experiences with them.

BobaFettish
Mon Jan 31, 2005 5:31 pm
#90

I'm not mad because ii'v been proven right or wrong...


I'm mad because a few ppl think its OK to Call someone names.


Name calling is not legal..To Call someone an idiot, fool, moron, Colonel Cluless...etc... is a Sueable offence & i'm within my Rights to take action against someone who calls me one of these names.


What do you addtually walk upto some stranger on the street who you see doing something you think is dumd, & acctually call them an Idiot to their face? or walk up to a Overweight Person & call him Fatso, or a Colored Person & Call him that "Nasty" name? or a Gay Person & Call him the "F" Word....Sryy Dude You Just cant do that!!! not even in Writting..!!! <<<It is Slander..!!!>>>


The Victim of Name Calling canHAS Every right to Turn Round round & smak you or if they have the recources, they have every right to Sue you.


Don't call me names & i Won't Get Agro...Simple as that.


I cannot stand ppl who "Thnk They are better than me", & Show it by Trying to Put me down with harsh name calling. I Won't Stand for it & I will Wan that i am unhappy about it, & i Will use my Resources if it persists.


And about Threatening ppl with action...., this is not bannable unless the action threatened is of a Physical nature..theres nothing illegal about me "warning" someone that I won't tollorate Slander.



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Alristico
Mon Jan 31, 2005 5:38 pm
#91






BobaFettish wrote:

I cannot stand ppl who "Thnk They are better than me", & Show it by Trying to Put me down with harsh name calling. I Won't Stand for it & I will Wan that i am unhappy about it, & i Will use my Resources if it persists.





I can't stand people who don't admit when they're wrong. Stop trying to draw attention away from your little imaginary scenario that vibro knuckers can rip through canyon krayts in seconds.



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