Items And Loot Archive
Thread: Tag team Spawn Campers....I've had enough.
BobaFettish
Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:13 am
#40
At what point does spawn camping become spawn camping?
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Spawn Camping is when a Player / Players / Guilds...Are there for more than say an hour or two, or otherwise, "Permenently" remain at a spawn & continue to farm that spawn & block it from being used by other players.
Geeez I don't know how else i can put it.
Thats as simple & streight forward as i can phrase it...
Message Edited by BobaFettish on 01-30-2005 08:19 AM
Alristico
Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:29 am
#41
BobaFettish wrote:
At what point does spawn camping become spawn camping?
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Spawn Camping is when a Player / Players / Guilds...Are there for more than say an hour or two, or otherwise, "Permenently" remain at a spawn & continue to farm that spawn & block it from being used by other players.
Geeez I don't know how else i can put it.
Thats as simple & streight forward as i can phrase it...
Message Edited by BobaFettish on 01-30-2005 08:19 AM
nope sorry, I didn't ask for your opinion. A csr isn't going to ask you if they should penalize someone for spawn camping or not. I have an opinion too, so does everyone. What I want is the answer. And if you can't give me the answer then I don't see how you can accuse anyone of spawn camping. That is my point. Spawn camping can't be formallypenalized without first being formally defined.
Liander
Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:41 am
#43
BobaFettish wrote:
Oh hell my head hurts.....
To hell with it all.
Just instance the damn Dungeons & Caves & then everyone can live in them & kill Nyax all they like...
I Just don't care anymore ...
Atleast everyone would be happy then....
Cept for the Nyax & Spawn Farmers & Ebayers.
bout time...now go play tetris or something...you shouldn't be here
Liander
Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:45 am
#44
BobaFettish wrote:
-- They are getting what they and their guild needs and you will see the rest come into the market --
Fine they get what they need, so they should move on And let other people "USE a Function that is meant for everyone to try out"
-- HIGHLY REDUCED RATE!!!!! --
What Planet are you on?? They Have the market Cornered, they charge what they like..Reguardless how much less cash ppl are making.
-- 1 Hit Weapons...what in the blue hell are you talking about. These guys aren't killing meatlumps...they are killing Lord Nyax --
It wasn't really 1 hit weps... its a phrase..., they were acctually hitting him mabe about 5 - 6 times each befor he went down.
MAN have u never seen these Uber fighters Kill a Kryat in less than 30sec... if not then you don't get out of the Nyax Dungeon much "its Obviouse that you are a Camper, the way ur defending them"
-- you are nothing more than a fool --
-- IDIOT!!!!!!!!!! --
K..... Call me anything like that again & you'll find yourself talking to my Lawyer..
Message Edited by BobaFettish on 01-30-2005 08:02 AM
yes they have it cornered but do you really think they are that naive to think that people all have 100mil+ bank accounts...i think not.
30 Seconds on a Krayt. A Juvy maybe, a Canyon...maybe a group of 1 Tank and 19 Jedi with MLS. A Giant Canyon...not a chance...a Ancient... LOL you make me laugh...thank you
Kyus
Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:03 am
#45
the people that i have seen camping nyax, know they are camping, they know that if i come alone they will easily out damage me , they don't even talk to me , they just stand there afk, auto target lord nyax and spam specials at him, i can't win , i can't get any loot, i have seen them there at all times of day , they only leave to go outside to get buffed, they do this so much they are incredibly rich , they already have everything they need , they just want more , cos they think that makes them 1337 , i hate these people. please please please SOE, just instance the last room , instance any area that s camped to hell, make it so you can't stay there all day just hording loot, with your uber weapons you got from another camping trip , give other players a chance , like players with jobs, who could'nt camp all day if they wanted to.
ObiQuixote
Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:05 am
#46
I'm on the pro competition side and I do "spawn camp." Loot has always been a king of the hill type of game, sometimes your king sometimes your not and if you have a coke and a smile this competition for loot can be a lot of fun.
StealthTiger234 wrotebiQuixote,
You seem to be really on the pro camping side. This isn't a topic about what needs to be killed in a group or not, its a topic about ppl camping things ina group, two toally different things. Your "out damage them" stance is IMO a pathedic thing to suggest. As with everything there is a limit to what you can do so what if you can't out damamge them? YOU REPORT THEM DUH!
You two do seem really hostile for ppl that will probably say they don't spawn camp. Your taking this topic really personal. You both need to sit down and have a coke and a smile.
I think i'll take the advice of the person who offered the CSR names. If I see someone camping i'll just report them, simple as that.
I've said everything I think i'll ever need to say in this thread so I probably woun't post in it again.
Spawns don't belong to anyone (that's in the EULA from what I understand) and everyone has a right to compete for them. Some classes are better at it then others but that's just part of the game and the choices we make as we play. A 12pt weapon smith is much better at making weapons then a speed capped rifleman but they suck at getting loot. Some classes are better at PvP some are better at PvE and some are better at Loot rights.
So if you can't out damage them and the loot matters to you, then you do what you need to to out damage them. Two swordsmen will beat a rifleman, three riflemen will beat two swordsmen etc. And if you get beat, be a sport about it, say "Good Game" move on or come back with friends. You don't go crying home to mommy saying "I'm telling a CSR on you."
And about this CSR stuff. They will tell you what I just did. Spawns don't belong to you. I hunt at the tusken fort all the time. There's usually no one there that can give me a run for my money so I try and be fair, try and avoid taking things people are working on. But the place can get crazy and confusing and sometimes a stray AOE will catch a tusken someone is working on or an auto attack will accidentally kill a low level spawn. Sometimes with lag it can look like both parties shoot first.
In these circumstances there's always some new player there with this entitlement mentality that will go into a verbal tirade and threaten to report me to a CSR. I'm sure quite a few of them do because I don’t back down when this starts. I have never been taken aside for a chat, however I have reported the people that get verbally abusive and vulgar in spatial, they sometimes suddenly disappear.
Before you reply to this saying “easy to say for someone that can always win,” I don’t. I played this game for a long time before I could beat anyone out of anything. I mostly solo so groups run me off all the time. That’s just part of a game you play with other players. Two people want the same thing one goes home empty handed.
One last thing about us “Elite loot camping loot hoarders.” Most of us can be reasonable if you approach us in a reasonable way. I obviously can’t speak for everyone but if someone comes along that obviously can’t beat me, but still shows some sportsmanship and the respect due to any person, I’m not opposed to taking a break, helping them, lowering my output to make a fair competition or sharing every other spawn with them. But if you come in and start yelling “MINE MINE MINE,” calling me names threatening to report me or any number of other harassments I’ve seen, I pull out a bigger gun, a power up and more clearly demonstrate how ownership is obtained in this game.
BobaFettish
Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:15 am
#47
a Canyon...maybe
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Nyaxhasno where near the HAM & Defences of a Canyon Kryat...!!
I have Taken Nyax out myself with a T21 in a few minuits at range.
I have Taken out a Canyon Kryat too.. & it took me 30min.
And yes i have seen with my own eyes, a tag team of two "Thats TWO" Guys....Bothwere TKM in 80% Kinetic (Porlly with Mods too), Bone or Chitin i think it was.., Take a Canyon Kryat in a few seconds...
In Fact they took out the entire spawn in less than five min.. I timed them.
I have also seen "Very Small Groups of TKM's Take out Giants..
I have never seen a Ancient, so know little of them.
But the fact remains, that Nyax is not that strong & can go down in next to no time at all.
But none of this has anything to do with the topic...
Which is - that no matter how fast Nyax dies or dose'nt die, its the attitude of the guys in there around the clock not letting anyone else have a go.
And i'm not the only one Peeved about this either.
Why not just let other ppl have a go... how can it hurtthemto do so.
Barrek
Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:19 am
#48
We are still getting off point we don't need more crap added such as instanced caves and POI's. We just need the CSR's to do there job and pop in the dungeon once in a while to clear out the AFK campers and the people that spend far too much time killing content for other people. You will never ever stop spawn camping and if they add something to stop it chances are they will just break it anyhow. There are only 4 or 5 places that people constantly camp or spend 3 or 4 buff sessions in one place. Drop in and tell them to move on them drop into the next place. If you come back and they are still there BOOT THEM... No new code needed, no broken POI's and caves just the CSR's doing what we pay them to do.
BobaFettish
Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:32 am
#49
That sound fine.. Just kik em out ....
A timer is still needed though to ensure that they can't return right away.... 24hrs should be about enough...!!
RaeKwon22
Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:35 am
#50
I dont think its very cool to camp nyax, afk or not. I went the other day and there were 2 guys in there. 1 was afk, 1 was not. I asked him if I might get a shot at killing nyax and how long would they be there. His answer was no, and they would be there "all day, all night and all day and night tommorow and the next day until the devs fix the spawn rate." he then gave me the wp to his shop that was full of attachments from camping the b*stard. MILLIONS of credits worth of AA's and CA's. I just want a little piece, maybe 1 ca or something. Not all of us have groups of friends with uber weapons willing to go be *sshole spawn hogs. so the whole go get friends with better weapons and outdamage the ones already camping is a stupid answer and a really stupid way to fix the problem.
Alristico
Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:44 am
#51
BobaFettish wrote:
a Canyon...maybe
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And yes i have seen with my own eyes, a tag team of two "Thats TWO" Guys....Bothwere TKM in 80% Kinetic (Porlly with Mods too), Bone or Chitin i think it was.., Take a Canyon Kryat in a few seconds...
your a liar. I hunt krayts with a tk using my jedi character. When i run out of force and take a break the tk doesn't do much to a canyon krayt with 60% resist to kinetic and heavy ap. "a few seconds" give me a break.
Alristico
Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:49 am
#52
RaeKwon22 wrote:
I dont think its very cool to camp nyax, afk or not. I went the other day and there were 2 guys in there. 1 was afk, 1 was not. I asked him if I might get a shot at killing nyax and how long would they be there. His answer was no, and they would be there "all day, all night and all day and night tommorow and the next day until the devs fix the spawn rate." he then gave me the wp to his shop that was full of attachments from camping the b*stard. MILLIONS of credits worth of AA's and CA's. I just want a little piece, maybe 1 ca or something. Not all of us have groups of friends with uber weapons willing to go be *sshole spawn hogs. so the whole go get friends with better weapons and outdamage the ones already camping is a stupid answer and a really stupid way to fix the problem.
you guys have to realize that nyax drops really good and expensive stuff. You can't expect someone to step aside and let you have a few million worth. When was the last time someone you didn't know tip you a couple million? And you can't expect someone to kill him once and be satisfied, especially with such an increased spawn rate.
You say you just want a crack at him but if noone elsewas there you would camp him just the same. And if you hadexceptional weapons and a good team then you wouldtry to out-damage others unless you're not fond of competing.