Items And Loot Archive
Thread: All these Camping Complaints
Milgram
Tue Feb 01, 2005 4:51 pm
#14
Koch20 wrote:
LOL, that's great. So basically your admitting to bieng a jerk and hording the spawn. There was a time, along time ago... In a server far far away.... Like you said us old timers had to put in time and learn how to out damage for loot right. During the begining days of the holo rush I realized although commando damage was great since the dot didn't count for loot rights at the time I would lose to tk's. So I became one. One day while venturing for a prized holo I came across a spawn with a commando. I knew I could take it from him and regretably did so. Instead of arguing with me he simply said he knew when he was beat and moved on. I felt like an ass and knew I had done something wrong. well over a year later now I have grown up in the MMO world (swg is my first) and realized that it's much funnier to share with the people you know you can beat for loot. They thank you, and appreciate your kindness and sometimes you make a new friend out of it and 99% of the time you don't even miss a good loot cause the damn npc dropped credits. It just seems that some of you have yet to grow up and learn to share. And then some of you are just down right greedy.
The thing you forget is that some people do not play to have "fun" as you describe it
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Koch20
Tue Feb 01, 2005 6:06 pm
#15
Alristico wrote:
Koch20 wrote:
Tavtrin wrote:
It basically comes down to this; some people are mature and nice enough to share some aren't. Whatever the justification given is it comes down tothat, and nothing you say can change that so trying to justify camping is a waste of time
Message Edited by Tavtrin on 02-01-2005 04:59 PM
Can't be said any better
If you guys wanna share everything without competing for it then test center is the perfect server for you. Everyone there is really nice and since its a tight nit community everyone is very helpful. Prices are much lower and people give away things to strangers that cost millions on live. I played there for a while, ground out all three of my characters thatare allowed there and was accepted into the community but something was always missing for me. It was the competition. They even have pvp rules where overts don't attack unless they both give their consent. Very different but I longed for a live server very much. You might wanna check it out.
What your talking about is not competions. It's selfish act of greed. You go there with your group and you ruin any chance for the guy who comes on his own or with a small group of 2 or 3. And I'm sick of you people talking about your uber 40 million credit weapons cause you know damn well these aren't what your using. Your using your group of 5-10 people not some super weapon. The only competion here is who can put together the larger group.
"To tired to attack" Ciry 
Willbaby
Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:26 pm
#16
ObiQuixote wrote:
I know this is a touchy subject for a lot of people and there is a lot populist threads going around about fairness and all, but there is another side of the story and something you should be aware of, it’s why a lot of us old timers and evil loot campers get upset when we see these threads.
Basically, we already put in our time. We spent the months where we couldn’t get rights on anything. We have already been down the road you are on and learned from it. We have taken the time to level our toons, spent the millions on equipment and did what was needed to be able to compete with those that once kept us from getting loot ourselves. We have learned all the little tips and tricks on how to play the damage game (Actually it’s not as simple as just bigger guns.) All of us campers were once just like you and we put a lot of time and effort into not being at the mercy of people just like us.
To us all these threads say the same thing from our perspective. All the time and effort you spent to be able to do what you can do, it should mean nothing and give you no benefit.
hehe , sorry for saying but thats nonsense , bigger guns and checking what resists the mobs weak to , then useing the best move u have doesnt come down as skill,
anyway , camping i can deal with , ive done it myself lots , i always move on after a while tho and im never afk , i think the touchy subject u speak of is not just getting outdamaged , its people who are actually at the keyboard and not winning loot thats got everyone upset . aswell as idiotic guilds sitting all there rifleman at spawn points , CONSTANTLY ,( not just every now and then , something i imagine people could deal with) , its all the time with these fools , makes the guild look like a bunch of idiots and spoils the game for everyone else .
Alristico
Tue Feb 01, 2005 8:22 pm
#17
Koch20 wrote:
Alristico wrote:
Koch20 wrote:
Tavtrin wrote:
It basically comes down to this; some people are mature and nice enough to share some aren't. Whatever the justification given is it comes down tothat, and nothing you say can change that so trying to justify camping is a waste of time
Message Edited by Tavtrin on 02-01-2005 04:59 PM
Can't be said any better
If you guys wanna share everything without competing for it then test center is the perfect server for you. Everyone there is really nice and since its a tight nit community everyone is very helpful. Prices are much lower and people give away things to strangers that cost millions on live. I played there for a while, ground out all three of my characters thatare allowed there and was accepted into the community but something was always missing for me. It was the competition. They even have pvp rules where overts don't attack unless they both give their consent. Very different but I longed for a live server very much. You might wanna check it out.
What your talking about is not competions. It's selfish act of greed. You go there with your group and you ruin any chance for the guy who comes on his own or with a small group of 2 or 3. And I'm sick of you people talking about your uber 40 million credit weapons cause you know damn well these aren't what your using. Your using your group of 5-10 people not some super weapon. The only competion here is who can put together the larger group.
lol so what your saying is you want to be able to stoll in uncontested and make a few million bucks in less then 10mins LMFAO you gotta be kidding me LOL.
LOL ya and I bet once you loot nyax once and get a +15 weapon experiment attachment you would just stoll right on out of there knowing that hell spawn again in 15-20min LMFAO. Your a joke.
Just so you know, last time I went there with a two others, I tuned about10 premium crystals/pearls before I got the stats that I wanted on my saber. Premiums go for 4-5mil on my server, that makes by saber worth about 40-50mil. The swordsman in the group had a 900+ power hammer un puped. Thats at least 15-20mil and the rifleman was using a really good T-21, I didn't ask the stats but I got the impression that It was pretty good.
aqcsquirrelm
Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:21 pm
#18
as long as your afk, if you outdamage then you get it...... its simple and nothing wrong
Koch20
Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:22 pm
#19
Alristico wrote:
Koch20 wrote:
Alristico wrote:
Koch20 wrote:
Tavtrin wrote:
It basically comes down to this; some people are mature and nice enough to share some aren't. Whatever the justification given is it comes down tothat, and nothing you say can change that so trying to justify camping is a waste of time
Message Edited by Tavtrin on 02-01-2005 04:59 PM
Can't be said any better
If you guys wanna share everything without competing for it then test center is the perfect server for you. Everyone there is really nice and since its a tight nit community everyone is very helpful. Prices are much lower and people give away things to strangers that cost millions on live. I played there for a while, ground out all three of my characters thatare allowed there and was accepted into the community but something was always missing for me. It was the competition. They even have pvp rules where overts don't attack unless they both give their consent. Very different but I longed for a live server very much. You might wanna check it out.
What your talking about is not competions. It's selfish act of greed. You go there with your group and you ruin any chance for the guy who comes on his own or with a small group of 2 or 3. And I'm sick of you people talking about your uber 40 million credit weapons cause you know damn well these aren't what your using. Your using your group of 5-10 people not some super weapon. The only competion here is who can put together the larger group.
lol so what your saying is you want to be able to stoll in uncontested and make a few million bucks in less then 10mins LMFAO you gotta be kidding me LOL.
I'm glad you foresee me looting something worth millions and not some cyroban grenades at the one attempt I make at him.
LOL ya and I bet once you loot nyax once and get a +15 weapon experiment attachment you would just stoll right on out of there knowing that hell spawn again in 15-20min LMFAO. Your a joke.
Yeah I would, what more do I really need. We aren't all consumed with your level of greed.
Just so you know, last time I went there with a two others, I tuned about10 premium crystals/pearls before I got the stats that I wanted on my saber. Premiums go for 4-5mil on my server, that makes by saber worth about 40-50mil. The swordsman in the group had a 900+ power hammer un puped. Thats at least 15-20mil and the rifleman was using a really good T-21, I didn't ask the stats but I got the impression that It was pretty good.
Congratulations?
aqcsquirrelm
Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:25 pm
#20
Im speed capped rifleman, and any t-21 over 550 dmg outdamages group's of 3-4 unexperienced or swords lol
anyone using a 40 mil weapon in pve is a big time idiot
Message Edited by aqcsquirrelm on 02-01-2005 10:25 PM
Koch20
Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:32 pm
#21
aqcsquirrelm wrote:
Im speed capped rifleman, and any t-21 over 550 dmg outdamages group's of 3-4 unexperienced or swords lol
anyone using a 40 mil weapon in pve is a big time idiot
Message Edited by aqcsquirrelm on 02-01-2005 10:25 PM
Thank you for pointing that out.
Gom_Kuub
Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:54 pm
#22
some people are better than other, some have more free time, etc.
my character is weak because i don't have the time to grind, therfore i stay weak and NEVER get much better
the guys who wait around the spawns, that is just wrong
i would like some good loot, just 1 really cool loot
but do i get it? no
it's not very fair, though i am an outcast in skills and equipment
and when i see cool loot on a vendor, it's 20 mill
one of the above posters is right: people apreciate it a TON if you give them a nice piece of loot
they practicaly hug it and run across a meadow of flowers with it
all i want is cool loot, not all of it, just some
and when it sells for millions, and people don't share the spawns, then how else am i supposed to get something?
-Gom
StealthTiger234
Tue Feb 01, 2005 10:25 pm
#23
IMO theres never a good reason to spawn camp....never. This excuse of well they did it to me so I do it to ppl that wern't even playing at the time. It sounds like your trying to take some twisted for of vengeance in innocent ppl. As one guy said some ppl will be nice and some woun't.
This is starting to change the way I see macros. before I thought they should just remove combat macros, now i'm starting feel they should just remove them all to make sure no one can make them.
This is starting to change the way I see macros. before I thought they should just remove combat macros, now i'm starting feel they should just remove them all to make sure no one can make them.
Alristico
Tue Feb 01, 2005 10:45 pm
#24
Koch20 wrote:
Alristico wrote:
Koch20 wrote:
Alristico wrote:
Koch20 wrote:
Tavtrin wrote:
It basically comes down to this; some people are mature and nice enough to share some aren't. Whatever the justification given is it comes down tothat, and nothing you say can change that so trying to justify camping is a waste of time
Message Edited by Tavtrin on 02-01-2005 04:59 PM
Can't be said any better
If you guys wanna share everything without competing for it then test center is the perfect server for you. Everyone there is really nice and since its a tight nit community everyone is very helpful. Prices are much lower and people give away things to strangers that cost millions on live. I played there for a while, ground out all three of my characters thatare allowed there and was accepted into the community but something was always missing for me. It was the competition. They even have pvp rules where overts don't attack unless they both give their consent. Very different but I longed for a live server very much. You might wanna check it out.
What your talking about is not competions. It's selfish act of greed. You go there with your group and you ruin any chance for the guy who comes on his own or with a small group of 2 or 3. And I'm sick of you people talking about your uber 40 million credit weapons cause you know damn well these aren't what your using. Your using your group of 5-10 people not some super weapon. The only competion here is who can put together the larger group.
lol so what your saying is you want to be able to stoll in uncontested and make a few million bucks in less then 10mins LMFAO you gotta be kidding me LOL.
I'm glad you foresee me looting something worth millions and not some cyroban grenades at the one attempt I make at him.
LOL you aren't complaining about not being able to loot npc's that don't drop uber loot. Your the greedy one,thinking you should be able toaquire millions ofdollars worth ofloot at an easy static npc spawn without being contested lol.
LOL ya and I bet once you loot nyax once and get a +15 weapon experiment attachment you would just stoll right on out of there knowing that hell spawn again in 15-20min LMFAO. Your a joke.
Yeah I would, what more do I really need. We aren't all consumed with your level of greed.
No you wouldn't, you would camp him just the same. The difference is you can't compete with others when they come along. I usually can't either but like to try anyway. Its more fun to earn you way rather than to have it just given to you. You sound very spoiled.
Just so you know, last time I went there with a two others, I tuned about10 premium crystals/pearls before I got the stats that I wanted on my saber. Premiums go for 4-5mil on my server, that makes by saber worth about 40-50mil. The swordsman in the group had a 900+ power hammer un puped. Thats at least 15-20mil and the rifleman was using a really good T-21, I didn't ask the stats but I got the impression that It was pretty good.
Congratulations?
Hmm, didn't you say, "And I'm sick of you people talking about your uber 40 million credit weapons cause you know damn well these aren't what your using." Well I guess your wrong then and I do deserve a congrats, thank you..
Alristico
Tue Feb 01, 2005 10:49 pm
#25
I don't understand you people. The reason why its good loot is because its hard to get. You and everyone else on the server want it but if you all got it then it wouldn't be good loot anymore. You just want it handed to you on a silver plater but guess what, you gotta earn it because by definition, good loot is tough to get. So EXPECT IT TO BE TOUGH.
Gom_Kuub wrote:
some people are better than other, some have more free time, etc.
my character is weak because i don't have the time to grind, therfore i stay weak and NEVER get much better
the guys who wait around the spawns, that is just wrong
i would like some good loot, just 1 really cool loot
but do i get it? no
it's not very fair, though i am an outcast in skills and equipment
and when i see cool loot on a vendor, it's 20 mill
one of the above posters is right: people apreciate it a TON if you give them a nice piece of loot
they practicaly hug it and run across a meadow of flowers with it
all i want is cool loot, not all of it, just some
and when it sells for millions, and people don't share the spawns, then how else am i supposed to get something?
Alristico
Tue Feb 01, 2005 10:53 pm
#26
StealthTiger234 wrote:
IMO theres never a good reason to spawn camp....never.
wealth? competition/fun? Improved performance from the mods? 12 point crafting? .......ring a bell?
hey I wish there wasn't any reason to spawn camp but guess what, there is. So either have fun competing with the other or have fun at some other spawn that isn't camped.