Items And Loot Archive
Thread: letter to the developers spawn camping issues
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badlandssunrunner
Mon Jan 31, 2005 6:40 pm
#1
Dear Sirs :
Congrats on the last patch however I must point out in an
effort to repair the economy you overlooked one very important factor.
GREED!
You have made the spawn times on poi's more frequent and the only
ones that are benefiting from this are the same people who dont want
anyone else to have a chance at gettin some decent loot.
The camping by the same people for days at a time doesnt allow for
anyone else to have an oppertunity to get any of the nice loot . Places
like Nyax and the geo caves to mention a few should be either instanced
or when the boss is defeated the player should be ejected out of the poi
givin others a fair oppertunity to loot,
How about gettin csr's to monitor the heavily camped area's and haveing
them eject some of the offenders untill you can make this fair for everyone
and not just the few.
While i fully expect to be flamed hard for this I really dont give a darn . The ones
that will flame are more than likely amoung the ones guilty of this exploit.
Yes I consider camping an exploit as all this does is prevent others from haveing
fun and gettin loot and not haveing to make some lame camper rich from the
lack of having the oppertunity to loot theirselves.
Message Edited by badlandssunrunner on 01-31-2005 05:40 PM
Message Edited by badlandssunrunner on 01-31-2005 10:59 PM
Syrius_Windrunner
Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:13 pm
#4
badlandssunrunner wrote:
How about gettin csr's to monitor the heavily camped area's and haveing
them eject some of the offenders untill you can make this fair for everyone
and not just the few.
5*s 
Dunno how possible it would be, but with all the new CSRs and new tools etc, it'd be nice to see them at least pop by a few times.. if only at peak times or something
Dunno how possible it would be, but with all the new CSRs and new tools etc, it'd be nice to see them at least pop by a few times.. if only at peak times or something
Gom_Kuub
Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:34 pm
#5
badlandssunrunner wrote:
Dear Sirs :
Congrats on the last patch however I must point out in an
effort to repair the economy you overlooked one very important factor.
GREED!
You have made the spawn times on poi's more frequent and the only
ones that are benefiting from this are the same people who dont want
anyone else to have a chance at gettin some decent loot.
The camping by the same people for days at a time doesnt allow for
anyone else to have an oppertunity to get any of the nice loot . Places
like Nyax and the geo caves to mention a few should be either instanced
or when the boss is defeated the player should be ejected out of the poi
givin others a fair oppertunity to loot,
How about gettin csr's to monitor the heavily camped area's and haveing
them eject some of the offenders untill you can make this fair for everyone
and not just the few.
While i fully expect to be flamed hard for this I really dont give a darn . The ones
that will flame are more than likely amoung the ones guilty of this exploit.
Yes I consider camping an exploit as all this does is prevent others from haveing
fun and gettin loot and not haveing to make some lame camper rich from the
lack of having the oppertunity to loot theirselves.
Message Edited by badlandssunrunner on 01-31-2005 05:40 PM
BOOYA!
-Gom
riotcontrol
Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:57 pm
#6
badlandssunrunner wrote:Dear Sirs :Congrats on the last patch however I must point out in aneffort to repair the economy you overlooked one very important factor.GREED!
/snipWhile i fully expect to be flamed hard for this I really dont give a darn . The onesthat will flame are more than likely amoung the ones guilty of this exploit.Yes I consider camping an exploit as all this does is prevent others from haveingfun and gettin loot and not haveing to make some lame camper rich from thelack of having the oppertunity to loot theirselves.
There is nothing to flame here (but I do have a suggestion to edit the original post and change it to something similar to 'POI spawn times - camping still a huge issue', since I've opened it accidentally - it doesn't really attract proper attention with the current title), as your observations are correct. The exact same people logging on in POIs at boss mob spawn times are the same people camping them now. The only difference is that they are getting far more loot. It still doesn't allow normal players to take a POI tour on a specific planet, kill some baddies and maybe even loot something once in a while. Which is too bad as clearing a POI cave is one of the more fun activities in the game.
Since the spawns have been increased, the camping is worse than ever, and you can hardly even go and clear the POIs which weren't populated before (the ones with almost totally worthless loot) as they're used for XP grinding now. Perhaps instanced caves would work. Perhaps a variable in the code to see if a player has already looted a specific NPC or container. I don't know. But it's a pretty obvious fact that the system doesn't work right now.
Eflore
Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:24 am
#8
someone just got my first 5 star ever on this game. here here. you got the right idea
Fingerofthrawn
Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:43 am
#9
badlanssunrunner wrote:
Dear Sirs :
Congrats on the last patch however I must point out in an
effort to repair the economy you overlooked one very important factor.
GREED!
You have made the spawn times on poi's more frequent and the only
ones that are benefiting from this are the same people who dont want
anyone else to have a chance at gettin some decent loot.
The camping by the same people for days at a time doesnt allow for
anyone else to have an oppertunity to get any of the nice loot . Places
like Nyax and the geo caves to mention a few should be either instanced
or when the boss is defeated the player should be ejected out of the poi
givin others a fair oppertunity to loot,
How about gettin csr's to monitor the heavily camped area's and haveing
them eject some of the offenders untill you can make this fair for everyone
and not just the few.
While i fully expect to be flamed hard for this I really dont give a darn . The ones
that will flame are more than likely amoung the ones guilty of this exploit.
Yes I consider camping an exploit as all this does is prevent others from haveing
fun and gettin loot and not haveing to make some lame camper rich from the
lack of having the oppertunity to loot theirselves.
I agree, though I've gotten to the point that:
1) Though I believe this is a seriously game-breaking issue I just don't think the devs care enough about it to fix it. And if they can be bothered to get around to it, it'll be long after the CURB which is going to be well after the damage is done---too little, too late.
2) The only way left that they can fix them anymore, is to either make all dungeons/campable area POIs/ loot-dropping spawns instanced (spawns would turn white once attacked and be unattackable by any other person/party); or by making a separate route available for those of us that don't camp, and allowing us to do some sort of ticket-taker quest that lets us and/or our group enter an instanced version of the dungeon (3 hour timer, same respawn as the actual dungeon, let us camp just a little if we so choose).
I mean it's really gotten sad. I have a couple friends that have never seen Nyax or Acklay (well over a year of playing- each) last time I toured those 2 POIs with them, there ended up being 12 people in the Nyax room, and 0 in Acklay (lol)- but that was because he had just been killed, so we waited for Acklay- about an hour of waiting, and by the time we left (my buffs ran out on the wait) the people that had killed him last came back to camp as well as others. Including my friend and I--- 19 people were in the Acklay room!!!! Do the words "out of control" mean anything to you at all?!?Make better loot drop in more places (right now 5-6 places drop decent loot- and no I'm not counting that 'phat lewt'- I'm only counting useful stuff here tyvm) and instance the dungeons for goodness sakes!! Right now, with your current methods, you have maybe 5% of the server that has a monopoly on 95% of the really good loot because they camp it, benefit from the best stuff, sell the rest, are rich and have the besst equipment available to turn around and outdamage *cough* KS *cough* anyone that comes to "dare" to try to take "their" loot. Come on SOE--- FIX THIS PLEASE!!!!
Tremk_Stryder
Tue Feb 01, 2005 6:28 am
#10
this is too easy not to get fixed.
if you kill the boss of a POI once that day u should have a 5-6 hour timer until you can go back into that dungeon without being booted out at the entrance..its pure coding and not that hard to do compared to what they have done so far...they can implement it.
Spitdog
Tue Feb 01, 2005 6:31 am
#11
I hate campers more than kill stealers!! There is nothing worse than going out looking for loot and seeing a purple or blue dot suddenly appear when halfway down the cave. I have been slowly cataloging all the AFK loot campers on Sunrunner and have about 10 - 20 names I intend to name and shame soon on are forum
Isi-Lia
Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:30 am
#12
I have to agree that the loot campers are out of control in this game.
I game on flurry where we had some imfamous Nyax campers, who would log in buff themselfs kill nyax logout and repeat at the next spawn. All were either M. Rifles or M. Swords and because they were speed capped & accuracy capped we couldnt out dammage them. It took 3 guilds getting together to outdammage them and we had to go every spawn to stop the camping at that spawn. The campers moved to a different spawn, and are still at it.
I agree with the others, Please make the caves and POI spawns instanced to allow each of us the ability to get the "Good Loots" or put the loots in missions where you have to do some work to get them.
What is even sadder is going to places like Moenia or Tyrena and seeing an afk combatant running a loot macro and just one hit killing the thug spawns because they can get some of the higher end loot kit items without any work.
It also saddens me that people assume now that if your killing thugs that you are afk and try to kill steal. While I love the static spawns and will use them to get loots on ocation there needs to be a system set up that allows everyoine the option to use these spawns without having to fight afkers.. Possably give the thugs a higher HAM so that you would have to do some work to kill them.
Rhadida
Tue Feb 01, 2005 8:17 am
#13
Just make it so every one can do the POI's once a week or something, or make them like the Corvette. Very difficult but you can try them every time you want
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